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CFandM
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Not really a rant but....If using an exsisting snippet since people worked and took the time to figure them out.. When using them in your own filters if you have not changed them in any fashion then post a note in the info (blahblah by blahblah) It makes for a happy community. Any thoughts... If if you have changed them it still might be cool to post a note in the info.
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Mike Blackney

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I don't really see it as necessary as a blanket rule. If you post a filter, you do it with the knowledge that you're sharing it with a friendly, acknowledging community. Anybody who plagiarises (i.e., adds very little to a pre-existing filter then resubmits) will be identified pretty quickly by an astute community, and anybody who adds something really special to a snippet is doing the community a great service, even if they needed a little assistance to overcome a hurdle.

I think if you want to submit a snippet and feel precious about it, perhaps put a "please attribute me..." etc. in the filter description? I figure that what goes around will come around.

I've made some filters that I really like, but if it weren't for the previous work of many skilled filter artists I wouldn't have been able to do it (at least not as quickly smile;) ) That's just the way things go, though. We get the privilege of saying that we were there from the Beta, and broke some new ground; but if our stuff pales in comparison to those who come later, I'm more excited than fearful - and I would like to think that's the general opinion.
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Bella
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To CFandM:
As far as I can judge from the various filter descriptions, most people do state something like "This filter is based on a snippet by ..." I think you needn't worry about this.
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CFandM
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Mike Blackney wrote:
I don't really see it as necessary as a blanket rule.


I also don't really see it as a blanket rule either. Could be more of a rule of thumb sort of thing.


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Mike Blackney wrote:
We get the privilege of saying that we were there from the Beta, and broke some new ground; but if our stuff pales in comparison to those who come later, I'm more excited than fearful - and I would like to think that's the general opinion.


I always get excited when I think about what might come next. Also in what gets posted for filters. Count me in that general opinion...
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CFandM
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Bella wrote:
To CFandM:
As far as I can judge from the various filter descriptions, most people do state something like "This filter is based on a snippet by ..." I think you needn't worry about this.


I was not really worried about this. The post was more of a general tip..It was just an odd one to word so it didn't sound like a rant or rave...
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Mike Blackney

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CFandM wrote:
I was not really worried about this. The post was more of a general tip..It was just an odd one to word so it didn't sound like a rant or rave...


I know what you're saying. It's a hard thing to recommend something like this to a community, since those who are thoughtful and responsible will do it anyway and those who aren't will probably not be influenced by your concerns.

It's a tough situation - FF gives no protection over a filter creator's work. It's nice to be recognised, but there's nothing forcing people to give attribution but their own consciences. That's why I'm very anti-ego with any filters that I make. I feel like I relinquish ownership of any filters that I submit, and that makes me a little happier smile:)
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