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hometime
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I'm sure it's evident that I am a beginner.
If I want to use say a 1) rust filter and a 2) cracked filter on the same image must I save the results of one filter and then use the other or is there a way to stack filters on an image in the stand alone program?
Or should I learn to use the filter editor for this?

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GMM
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I think this is feasible with the command-line renderer.
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hometime
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So, nothing simple as in a feature built in.
I'm surprised this hasn't been asked for.
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CorvusCroax
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Hey hometime:

Yes, running one, then saving the image, the running the next one is generally how it's done.

If you have the full version, you can remix both filters into one big macro filter.

If you use Photoshop, you can record an action which runs one FF filter, and then another.
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hometime
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Yeah,
I do use Photoshop but the 64 bit version so it's not supported,
guess I could install the 32 bit version also.
Not sure how to create a macro filter.

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IONclad
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It's not too difficult to get your hands dirty just a little bit. You could open up filter one, copy all nodes. Open up filter two and paste. The connection in filter one that used to be connected to an output can now be connected where filter two's image tile is, replacing it as the source for filter two. voila.

This trick doesn't work unless both filters are image processing filters, or one non-image filter funneled into one image filter.

Using this trick you can connect several image filters together in sequence, just... be prepared for one render to take X times as long. smile:p
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IONclad
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hometime... email me if you want to try this and run into trouble.
ionclad@gmail.com
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hometime
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Thanks, I'll have to check it out sometime.
Most of my time is spent on other things but will have to give it a try,
when I get to the task.
I appreciate the insight, but since I haven't tried it yet,
not sure it if will work that easily (not that I don't believe you just haven't tried it myself),
seems like it could get messy since I am new to FF and not sure I would do it correctly.

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IONclad
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nothing to lose... even if it doesn't work. just start over. smile:)
When you have time, just create a filter, and start playing. It doesn't take more than a couple hours before you start thinking of ways to get 'stuff' smile:p

I can debug your filter if you do run into trouble. just email it to me.

cheers

Ian
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Kraellin
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IONclad wrote:
It's not too difficult to get your hands dirty just a little bit. You could open up filter one, copy all nodes. Open up filter two and paste. The connection in filter one that used to be connected to an output can now be connected where filter two's image tile is, replacing it as the source for filter two. voila.


this also may not work if one or both filters is a surface type filter since there is only one result component and it holds the hdri environments and bumpmap stuff and ambient occlusion stuff. so, if one filter was surface it may have been treating the height differently from the second and so on.

you can always turn both filters into simple types and then combine them or try to do it in the combined filter but chances are your effects in the old ones arent going to be exactly the same in the new one so the combined effect isnt going to be exactly what you were going for, either.

still, we do do these from time to time and do have success at times with it, so dont let me discourage you from trying. i just wanted to clarify that one point about combining them.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

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hometime
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"I can debug your filter if you do run into trouble. just email it to me."

Thanks, I'll keep your offer in mind if I run into something I think I can use some help with.

Don
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SpaceRay
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GMM wrote:
I think this is feasible with the command-line renderer.


Please, Is this the only way available for using Multiple Filters On An Image ?

I am sorry, but I do not want to use the command-line renderer

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Kraellin
Kraellin

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did you read this, spaceray?

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CorvusCroax wrote:
Hey hometime:

Yes, running one, then saving the image, the running the next one is generally how it's done.

If you have the full version, you can remix both filters into one big macro filter.

If you use Photoshop, you can record an action which runs one FF filter, and then another.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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SpaceRay
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Kraellin wrote:

did you read this, spaceray?


Yes, I have already read this BUT there is a problem that I am very sorry that I am not an FF expert like many of you and do not have the knowledge and skills to be able to remix the both filters into one big macro filter, and so do not know how to do it and the same happens with recording an action that runs one FF filter.

Yes I know is my problem of not knowing how to do it, and should learn.

This why I have put this other threads some time ago

Is there any tutorial about how to use FF with actions in Photoshop ?

Where you have answered me that it would be better to check a photoshop manual to know about actions, but the problem is that it seems that the actions do not work well with FF as it happens with other plugins and I can´t make it to work

Would like to apply a filter to a photo and after render apply another

And in this second there is something very interesting that Crapadilla wrote

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Spaceray Wrote:

Could this be done in some way inside photoshop using FF plugin and actions ????

You will need to be able to choose the filter you want after the render result, or have the ability to list, name or "program" the filters you want already in the action.

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Crapadilla wrote:

No, it's not possible because PS does not 'talk' to FF about the filter or preset being used -- it's just the layer data being exchanged. Therefore, the 'action recording' part has to happen inside FF.




So it seems that is not possible to make and action because PS does not "talk" to FF and for recording to be able, must happen inside FF, and this is not possible in the FF actual version.
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