How to get more quality filter submissions?

Now that most of the heavy hitters have gotten their fill of EP and HU how will filter forge continue to attract high quality filter submissions on a regular basis? We get a few here and there, but nothing like at the beginning when half of us didn't have 22 Life Time updates from FF.

Could we cash in HU points to get free downloads of the Pro filters?

hmmm.. what are those HUs and EPs you guys are talking about? Seen this couple of times around the forum..

This is how I think FF should do it.....

http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...9&TID=7109

Don't allow commercial re-selling, the quality filter submissions slowed down when people realized others were profiting from their work all over the web in mass.

Basically do the type of things Mike and StevieJ suggests where filter makers get some sort of money back in exchange otherwise people will just sell rendered image textures and not submit quality filter in general.

Maybe also stop the free FF reward thing as that has been going for years now and seems to be just a way to boost the library amount. There will always be a few people that are fine with sharing them though so it will remain the same as now if not with a few quality filters from time to time but more average or remixed filters.

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angelboiii wrote: what are those HUs and EPs you guys are talking about? Seen this couple of times around the forum..

Basically all of your filters are HU (High Usage) i would have thought you would have known, you should be able to get lifetime updates for free now. In my opinion your filters were some of the best made with FF1 also

I think a simple solution might be to give away prizes for a lot of HU or EP, for example. 25: Get a nintendo DS: Get a copy of CS5 100 HU: 3d Max Something like that.

Because even with a high limit, I would still feel like I wasn't just waisting time submitting filters...

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Cybersparkle wrote:I am quite alarmed at the idea of pay per filter or not being able to sell work I made using Filter Forge. So much of the professional software needed to make a living is so overpriced (thousands of dollars) Filter Forge is like an angel and breath of fresh air for those of us on a budget needing quality graphic software. During this global economic slump would it really be wise to begin charging more?

As this sort of response happens a lot with these threads this is a general reply with my view so not really a reply to just you. Basically yes it would be wise to charge for filters from now on but filters would be much less of a cost than the app.

The reasons are firstly there is already 7160 Filters available which is probably the main reason many people buy the program. This is more than enough in general and all of these can be modified by FF which should be the main reason to buy as it's a tool to create textures with rather than just hit randomize etc, it can make nearly all the textures you could ever want with the available nodes and features already.

The next reason is not all of those 7160 Filters are high quality. Maybe i should not say it but since the V2 library started it seems less interesting than when V1 started although there is a few really nice textures still. It seems to me that people are keeping all the good ones to themselves this time and they have the right to, they probably don't have much drive to submit them which is why this thread is here to think of good ideas to change that.

This is what we are discussing here, there is less reward for creators now and also there is a general view online now with some people that FF was built to make them money. I am guessing that is not the case and although it's perfectly fine to make and sell your own work it was not designed to be a way to sell others work in mass. For anyone wanting to use FF as a creative tool the options have been there from the start and always will be as well as all the current filters which can be used to learn and help get people started.

Another reason is that the FF developers did not make all of these filters and many of them are made by other users. So basically anyone just rendering images out is doing this with others work. If someone just uses FF to render things there is already many textures to use and also many online for free or at a cost, so if your just making a image it's not much different to just using a image but there is already loads of Filters to work with and the current library would not vanish anyway i am guessing.

A lot of people will have submitted to get a free copy as a reward but once they have the reward will they continue to submit nice filters? the answer in short is probably not hence the reason for FF to give something back in return to help keep nice filters getting added to the library.

Cost wise you don't have to buy anything right now and as said people already have a tool to create anything they want which should be it's main selling point rather than the library. If filters did start getting sold it would just be a similar case to any current stock site online, if you thought it was worth the price you could buy it but if not you would not have to.

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Redcap wrote: I think a simple solution might be to give away prizes for a lot of HU or EP, for example. 25: Get a nintendo DS: Get a copy of CS5 100 HU: 3d Max Something like that. Because even with a high limit, I would still feel like I wasn't just waisting time submitting filters...

I like that idea, it would be good to have a choice of a few things also if this happened just in case they owned a DS etc already.