Control Ops: Randomize
... the user ever seeing these random values. This is where my little idea comes into play... "
Even more eloquently ;) :D
"Crapadilla wrote:
Yes, lockable controls are another thing that's definitely important. When it comes to control randomization, the user should be able to lock certain controls conveniently from the filter settings tab on the main UI. In addition, the filter author should be able to set 'default' locks on control components in the Filter Editor to provide the end user with a more usable and convenient randomization ...
Control Locks in V4???
... on both sides. You can't really go wrong though, and it can be updated later, that's what betas are for!
I would like that if it were per-preset, authors could make presets work the way they want them to so when someone uses it, they can hit the randomize and still get the essence of a particular preset they want.
Either per-filter or per-preset just saves time in one way and not the other since the user can change the locks manually at any time, so the real question (I think) is: would saving the lock per-preset/per-filter generally save more time or less time?
Control Locks in V4???
... :-)
Edit:
As much as I want that feature, let them work out all the bugs on the three major features they did include first ;-)
And here is a workaround for you until they add control locks:
Open the editor, disconnect the control you want locked, set the value you want, save filter as a copy and spam the randomizer button ;-)
Control Locks in V4???
... control names, it will look exactly the same as my earlier minimal variant.
"The balloon popup would be awesome for a per-control help text or documentation though."
Very good point. I agree, it would be a shame to waste the tooltip on the randomizerlock alone.
Control Ops: Randomize
... Randomize" and "Lockable Controls" combined with much of this suggestion from Volde would be the "PERFECT" improvement package.... "
Yes, lockable controls are another thing that's definitely important. When it comes to control randomization, the user should be able to lock certain controls conveniently from the filter settings tab on the main UI. In addition, the filter author should be able to set 'default' locks on control components in the Filter Editor to provide the end user with a more usable and convenient randomization ...
RandomizerLock
Author: StevieJ. ***cough*** :D
I think getting control locks for use in randomization would be pretty gosh-darn important for this program.....right??? :beer: Thanx for pic, CC :)
Lock Seamless Tiling On or Off
Author: Indigo Ray. Locks are for randomization. They prevent parameters from changing when you click "next variant". However, notice that the Seamless Tiling checkbox never changes when you do that. It isn't affected by randomization.
Control Locks in V4???
Author: Vladimir Golovin. Everyone, we've just released the first stage of Beta 5.0 which includes RandomizationLocks: https://filterforge.com/download/beta5/randomization-enhancements.html
"Image Optional" Category for filter library
... effects can be burried within the overall effects of a filter.....and would be more efficient for use as a stand-alone filter. Even overloading presets with the burried effect would not allow the user efficient use of it because controls can not be locked in randomization.
All in all, I think that you are right about finding a more efficient way to do it.....
Speaking of efficiency, I've found quite a few disfunctional filters that look like they have been intentionally dismantled and dumped back into ...
Steve's Most Wanted :)
... and implement as components: This would take care of #1, #2, #3, and #4 here.....and be the slickest thing since sliced bread ;) :D
6) Lockable filter controls.....little check boxes to the right or left of controls: To have the ability to lock control values so the randomizer can be used as a much more efficient tool to zero in on desired effects and troublshoot filter problems.....especially with control-laiden filters.
7) Omit/Include option for "Size, Pixels" control, ability to set "size, ...
Control Locks in V4???
... filters are generally undesirable, but that's limiting creative freedom. What if people have personal filters they keep to themselves where they need that feature?
As for the modification lock, I think that is a little much. A control's value is locked until the user decides to change it, this would only add another step to changing a value. If it was randomize-locked it could have a slightly dim or subtle look to let the user know that it's special. Users are essentially intelligent randomizers :D so if they see the randomize-lock they can decide how to deal with that control themselves.
Lock Controls On Randomize
Author: Vladimir Golovin. Yes, the ability to lock specific controls to avoid their randomization has already been requested. Most likely, this is already on our long-term plans.
Please, which features from the WIKI are the most wanted by you ?
Author: CorvusCroax. Here's my TOP 10 FF list, in order of priority:
1) Self Illumination Map, for those of us who use FF for 3d.
Self-Illumination. (Planned) [62][63]
2) Randomizerlocks (jeez ppl have been asking for this for a long time.)
Locking controls to exclude them from randomization. (Planned, low priority) [126][127][128][129][130][131][132]
3) Save multiple channels at once. AKA 'Multi channel save.' Ideally,
Export/save ...
Features Already Requested
... currently loaded image. (Planned)
Filter Browser
- Collapse Filter browser to make room for Filter controls. (?)
- Customizable 'MyFilters' category including sub-folders. (?)
- Set location of 'MyFilters' folder. (?)
Randomizer
- more randomizer fine-control. (Planned)
- locking controls to exclude them from randomization. (Planned, low priority)
Filter Presets
- ability to name presets. (Planned)
- reorder presets via drag & drop. (?)
- More than 20 factory presets per filter. (Considered)
Filter Info Tab
...
Features Already Requested
... Browser
- Collapse Filter browser to make room for Filter controls. (?)
- Customizable 'MyFilters' category including sub-folders. (?)
- Set location of 'MyFilters' folder. (?)
Randomizer
- more randomizer fine-control. (Planned)
- locking controls to exclude them from randomization. (Planned, low priority)
Filter Presets
- ability to name presets. (Planned)
- reorder presets via drag & drop. (?)
- More than 20 factory presets per filter. (Considered)
Filter Info Tab
- make author's name a hyperlink ...
Randomize Options
Author: Vladimir Golovin. Yes, I agree, Randomizer controls are far from perfect. I considered a control locking scheme but had to put that on hold due to time constraints. This is currently on low priority.
Needed Enhancements
... StevieJ. I use FF alot....dream of components, scripts, and new things that I can create with it in my sleep :D ....and I think the following enhancements are currently the most needed for this program (behind 64-bit support)....
1) Control Locks for Randimization: More than much needed....not having them makes it impossible to use randomizer to zero in on things with all the controls changing each time you touch it. Further, having control locks would be very useful towards testing and isolating problems in the construction of filters as well....
2) Disconnect global Size,...
Wishlist: Randomize ON/OFF for each setting.
... variations around that. Different noise, or different opacity, or what have you. In particular I do NOT want to randomize all my colors. (For some reason it always seems like they end up purple! :?: )
The UI for this could appear simply as a little 'lock' button to the left of the setting. Like photoshop. (See image)
An alternative would be a toggle in the near the randomize settings which says 'Don't Randomize Colors'. But I think a toggle on each setting is a better structure.
Control Locks in V4???
Author: SpaceRay. Have just been using some filters that would benefit very much from having this randomizationlocks, because as they are now, the randomization is mostly useless, as they have many settings and using the "next variant" button makes most of the times a great mess and useless results.
Would love that this is included in FF 4.0
