Another FF BatchRenderer on the block (Cross-Platform)
... my fellow Filterfanatics!
I'm working on a Batchrenderer for Filter Forge. I know, why another one? Well, first an foremost, because I can't seem to find one for Mac (which I'm mainly using).
I plan to change that, so I started to create my own Renderer with following Features:
Downloads from Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?il122raskrmqg) (Darwin = Mac)
Already available:
- Job List Creation
- Watchfolder Support (with automatic rendering)
Planned:
- change Preset values
- ...
Renderer Agnostic capabilities. Possible for FF ?
... wouldn't make sense as it was only there because of a lack of 64bit capabilities in the first place.
Failing that, would it not be possible to just make a separate renderer for FF that's GPU specific or 64bit specific and have some way for us to send batch jobs to either that or the current command renderer? Hell, why not just give all 3 as options and let us decide what we want to make use of based on our needs?
Also, is it just me or does anyone else think this would be the perfect opportunity for FF to have a Kickstarter. Basically, just make ...
Over processing??????
Author: Chas. Hi All, I just downloaded this and found some wonderful things I really like and want to use, however there is something going on that makes the program standalone or as a plugin, suck up all the processor, rendering takes hours if not days. ( that is if it dont hang.)
I am shooting large images, and produce large prints as well, I am running Photoshop CS4, on a windows vista 64, single processor 2.1, with 4 gigs of ram. I can batch edit up to 200 images on this system, run Nik, FX, and many other plugins without a hitch. I would be delighted if it would be able to process even one image at full size with out the hang, minium prints is an 11X17, standard is 24X36.
Doesnt matter ...
I've been testing Ultraforge beta and what my wish in Ultraforge 1.0
... inconvenient, right?
Improving the quality of images using automatic1111 That is difficult and time consuming. Sometimes it may fail.
Right now, Ultraforge beta 1.0 can only render 512x512 images with a maximum resolution of no more than 768.
can't make batch images render.
can't upscale image with add more detail.
The advantage now is that it's easier to install. and very faster start than automatic1111.
I wish ultraforge 1.0 could upscale while adding more detail. Correct extra fingers, extra limbs, and distorted ...
Filter Forge and the notion of a Project
... style. In the end, I just wished that it can process a bunch of images at once in some form or fashion.
https://filterforge.com/upload/forum/upload/508/Node_based_GUI.jpg
Image above is something that was made by aba a while back with his (her?) batchrenderer program. It has the sort of GUI I was imagining. I think this is what Crapadilla's trying to describe but more nuke-like?
I'm honestly a bit unsure about the concept overall since the whole scope of a "project" is very focused to ...
Filter Forge and the notion of a Project
... would need a new breed of Resource (i.e. read & write) components that actually "remember" their file sources and destinations. Furthermore, one could imagine that this top-level workspace provided animation functionality (i.e. a timeline) and batchrender capability.
However, FF does not provide many standard compositing app functions like painting, spline-based masking, etc, so it would be a looooooong way to make that Project Editor feature-complete. IMHO, FF would be better served if it opened ...
Proper batch tools = instant FF4 upgrade
... I have been able to make it as you have said and IT WORKS VERY WELL and I was doing it wrong before, and thanks to you I knew that this IS POSSIBLE and I had to know HOW could this be done
I have just done this Mini Tutorial for using FF filters Batchrender with Photoshop Actions (http://filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=5&TID=10640) to let know how to do it if anyone wants to know.
BUT with the actions you still can not do what I put here below
CAN A PHOTOSHOP ACTION RUN DIFFERENT FF FILTERS ...
Batch GUI Tool for Windows
... click on "upd ate preset" or make a new preset for this value, so when using the FF Command Line Renderer it will render and use it with that antialias se tting you have choosen.
And to avoid having to go back and forth with the AA settings,... ... each one of the AA settings that you want to test and as you can choose many different presets inside the FFBatchTool, you can batch process the result with all the AA setting that you want and then without waiting, you can review each one and see wich ...
batches for all
... and i get to the page with the controls laid out. that's cool. but, if i set the destination to c:\my documents\test , is it going to send this to your computer or mine?
this is very cool. it appears that you're writing the front end or gui for the batchrendering of FF! very cool!
ok, i tried a test run. i got several errors.
"Warning: DOMDocument::loadXML() [domdocument.loadxml]: attributes construct error in Entity, line: 1 in /nfs/vsp/dds.nl/s/sjeiti/public_html/ffbatch/getzip.php on line ...
4 core and 6 core rendering the same - no speed increases
... the time measurement with a digital clock that found on internet at first, but then after aba made the incredible and awesome Batch GUI tool (https://filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=5&TID=11476&MID=121325&sphrase_id=2547588#message121325) is much more ... ... able to process the information as they are all very different and have different component combinations that will make the render speed different
Batch GUI Tool for Windows
... filter name + preset used
"aba
I could make it possible to change antialias (AA) /Ambient Occlusion (AO) settings in the batch for a filter. Maybe automaticaly switch it off for testdive. But I don't know if that is useful."
Do you mean that ... ... size preview to see how the Antialias is applied, so if you could choose to have different settings of AA to test, it would render different versions of the same result with different AA settings as it would happen if you had different presets each one ...
Dear Santa... (wishlist from a 2D-3D generalist)
... would replace the old node with a fresh version of it, and se t it up (reconnect everything and put on the same values)
- Batch application of different filters from FF (command line and XML files suck a bit). I have seen it pretty requested.
- ... ... something like Photoshop snapshots. Would also be awesome if we could compare the result from different snapshots.
- Pause the render (maybe is there and I still don't know how to do it), and/or thumbnail generation
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Ideas coming from Nuke:
- ...
Can be presets controlled and choosen from inside of a filter?
... it would be faster to save than a higher one, but on other components you would most probably need a higher ressult and FF would take much time to remder each preset
USE EXTERNAL TOOLS
although to avoid spending much time waiting for any slow render of different filter presets, I have just remembered about the awesome and great
Batch Gui tool by aba (https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read.php?PAGEN_1=5&FID=5&TID=11476&sphrase_id=3048949#nav_start)
wh ere you can render automatically all the preset at a given resolution output
And have just discovered that there is also ...
Proper batch tools = instant FF4 upgrade
... "Spaz8
ya I am a Mac user at home, and windows at work"
Well, there are two options:
1 - is that all the FF Batch work that you may need you could do it at work, and then save the results to bring them at your home
2 - Use an Windows ... ... has been already confirmed by GMM, as it seems that it has a low priority as there is already available the FF command Line Renderer, and perhaps it may be even less priority now that this aweome tool from aba is available (altough only for windows)
Batch GUI Tool for Windows
... Sharandra Thanks for testing!
I solved the bugs you found, hope I didn't miss one.
"SUGGESTION TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE RENDERING TIME IN SOME WAY OR HAVE A LOG TEXT WITH THEM"
I tried it, it was possible but somehow it slowed down the rendering-process,... ... are used for animation and some other slight changes)
I changed the name from FFBatchGUI into FFBatchTool (Filter Forge Batch Tool). I also changed the way how you can download it, you now have to push a button on a simple web page.
I hope that ...
The Top 3 Features You'd like to see most!
... personal top 3 feature's I'd like to see most are as follows...
1st Place
FF as a compositing-application plug-in, conforming to the emerging OpenFX standard, preferably.
Yup, this would totally rock IMHO, and would also take care of all our batchrendering and animation needs in one grand stroke. I'll keep my thumbs pressed! Btw, this takes all the first three spots in my book, so I'm going to continue with... :D
4th Place
Bomber components (i.e. particle placement components).
Unfathomably ...
Optimizations, 64bit native, CUDA support
... like to see CUDA support added so it can fully utilize my $2k graphics card instead of fumbling around consuming 98% of my 32 CPU cores for hours on end which also implies that it's doing that inefficiently anyway.
I frequently make use of the batchrenderer for it's render speed advantages or at least the assumed advantages and even then on some filters it can take an hour per image. I realize this is partly due to the way the filter is set up and/or the complexity of the filter and likely many ...
FF11 Sequential Image Processing for ONLY 1 image and multiple presets
... different ones)
OPTION 3 - STACK RESULTS ON TOP OF THE PREVIOUS ONE on the same image
Have 1 source image and then apply multiple presets of the same filter to the SAME image
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for extended more information
How to BatchRender ONE image with multiple separate filters results? (https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=5&TID=11393)
Thanks very much for any possible help
Optimizations, 64bit native, CUDA support
.... I'm sure if I had let it go on it would have done that for at least another 15 minutes.
Adding support for GPU rendering doesn't have to mean a complete change in the code base. It could be done by way of an alternate renderer, sort of like the batchrenderer. Just a separate .exe that you can direct it too though the options panel. This way you could swap out how you wish to render images and the primary code base wouldn't have to account for as many user setups and hardware situations. It would ...
Be able to put filter presets settings into the bomber or bomber plus
... OF EACH ONE OF THE PRESET RESULTS INDEPENDENTLY AND LOAD THEM AFTER INTO BOMBER
With this option you would need to make a render result of each one the presets you want to use and load them into color controls for the bomber, and is needed obviously ... ... one or use the FFEasyRender2.0 (https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=5&TID=15954&MID=154362#message154362) or other batch tool
This way you do not need to duplicate either the components or control settings, but of course you loose totally ...
