Filter Folder Creation

That's because since I made my 'z-depth bombers' request, everything else is totally 'low priority'!

I absolutely love FF and use it all the time, but the one thing that I find deeply disappointing is how little attention is paid to useability.

Not being able to organize our own filters is doubly crazy when people who submit don't always make reasonable choices for the one level of organization that we DO have.

And then there's stuff like the fact that I have a 2560x1440 monitor but the left-hand nav area (including editor preview!!?!!) has a narrow fixed width that I'm sure was an appropriate choice for the monitors 10 or more years ago.

So it's acres and acres of unused monitor space but I still have to scroll left and right in a teeny tiny window.

Anyway, I'll continue to use it, and I'll definitely upgrade even though I know that by doing so there's no negative feedback, and we'll all continue being stuck with an application that's increasingly more painful to use.

See the dissention you've caused, Dilla!!!

Yeah, the current file system assumes that you have a pretty extensive memory...in addition to countless library filters in wrong catagories...so I think this is well beyond much-needed...

I've been making due with it on my monitor...but display options to cover various standard screen sizes should be a given...especially with any graphics program...

Kraellin, VERY WELL said and I agree with you totally that the ability to create and organize the filters with our own folder creation should be one of the priority features on FF 3.0

Reading your excellent post I am now aware that filter makers DO NOT HAVE ANY FOLDERS to save and organize thier OWN filters and have just ONE MY FILTERS FOLDER !!! WOW !!! This must be really bad. As I do not make any filter (Although I would love to but do not have time to learn) I did not notice that the CREATORS do not have any different folders on FF.

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Kraellin wrote: i do understand you have your own priorities and i respect that. i just wish, for the sake of your users, including me, that you could bump this one up in priority real quickly. it really is a nuisance like it is now.

YES, Vladimir I understand also that you have most probably a list of your own priorities and the things that you want to include and things that you think that is not needed now and could wait and I too respect that, but I think that an important thing like this should be included as a priority if you want to help users.

Sorry that I do not know about programming, but would it be so difficult and time consuming to be able to add this feature of folder creation to organize the filters ?

Please, I know that you probably have already a roadmap and a plan of the features to add before the final release and a probably date that you want it to be released, but I think that it would be really helpful if you add some time more to be able to include this very useful feature.

Thanks really very much.

ABOUT SECOND PART OF KRAELLIN POST

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Kraellin wrote: allow that filters be loaded from a non-cached source, such that those non-cached do NOT get loaded when the program is initially run. this would allow for storing filters on a cd/dvd or some place else on the harddrive

Sorry Kraellin, but I do not agree with this, at least in my opinion.

Please, could you explain how would you would be able to choose the filters that gets loaded WITH Filter Forge at start and WHICH filters are NOT loaded ?

this would allow for storing filters on a cd/dvd or some place else on the harddrive ???

I am sorry but I do not understand you here, because NOW is already possible to store all the filters that you want on a CD/DVD or hard drive, you just make a copy if the Filter Forge Filters folders as a backup and you can save it in a CD/DVD or copy it somewhere else in any hard drive.

Do you mean be able to selecet one by one which filters you would like to have installed and which filters you want to store but still be seen by Filter Forge ?

Would it be like a Filter Manager as there is already for Photoshop ?

Kraellin, I am trying to understand what you mean, but is still not very clear.

Do you want that Filter Forge does NOT load any filter from start and allowing you to browse for any filter that you want to load fr om other non-cached sources to call up any given filter?

So you want that the filters are loaded one by one as you choose to use them ?

Or perhaps load a small amount of filters and then let you add additional external folders with more filter forge filters that would be seen by filter forge but NOT load them ?

How will you browse a thumbnail for each filter ? Would it need to make a new filter browser window for loading filters ?

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Please, can you tell me what is the main point and the reason and usability to make the second part of this suggestion available in Filter Forge

You say that, you would then not have to load them all with the program load

So, the problem for you is that that Filter Forge loads very slow when starts if it has ALL 7000+ filters that is available in the Filters library ??

How much time does it take your filter forge to load with ALL 7000+ filters ?

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IF the problem is the loading speed of Filter Forge and the time it takes to start

If this is the reason I think that the problem is NOT from Filter Forge, the problem is the SOURCE HARD DRIVE from wh ere you are loading Filter Forge application, and the speed that this hard drive has.

So if the problem is that filter forge takes much time to load, this could be solved in a much easier way by upgrading and changing to a faster hard drive or and SSD Hard drive (I know is more expensive but the price are getting lower and lower)

SO instead of changing all the way of loading filters into Filter Forge as you suggest, it would be really better that one would need to upgrade the source hard drive from wh ere you load the FF application.

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SO, would changing to a faster drive and that FF would take only a few seconds to load SOLVE the problem or there is any other special reason that you want to have this feature you suggest in the second part available ?

ray,

i dont mind if FF has some cached folders that would load at startup. that's fine, but i also want the ability to make my own folders that arent cached and that dont load at startup, and in actual fact, i see a third option now, also... 1. cached that start up with program loading and are loaded into the normal FF library system, 2. cached that are in 'my folders', not 'my filters'. those would also start up with program loading but would be in folders of my own creation that would reside within the FF system and Gui. and 3. a normal windows file system accessed through FF that you could call up other filters that didnt reside within the normal FF file system. for instance, let's say you ordered the filter disk fr om FF, inc. that disk has all the filters within the filter library (at least at the time you bought it). you shld be able to simply put that disk in your cd/dvd drive and with FF open, temporarily load any filter off that disk and use it. it wouldnt load the disk into 'my filters'; it would simply load it into ram for use. you could even get a bit fancier and if you happened to edit that filter and make a new version, you shld be allowed to save it anywhere wh ere you could normally save any type file to.
basically, ray, i simply want to be able to load and save ANY filter from ANY location and have it reside in a cached or non-cached folder. that's the bottom line.

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StevieJ wrote: I'm sorry, but not having this is getting ridiculous... I've got literally thousands of filters... I'm forced to manually organize my filters in separate "My Filters" folders...swap out the folders...and still have to scroll thru a ton of filters to find what I want... This limitation makes things very innefficient... I can not see why there can not be user-created filter folders???

I totally agree with you again as I already said above, but now there is a small lifesaver to overcome and help in some way with this very annying and bad topic, and is that Morgantao will be soo kind to help the whole FF coummunity making a tool for this topic

Please, see more about this in this thread

Morgantao´s New tool for custom organizing and managing FF library!!!!