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McGyver
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1-I don't know what I'm talking about...

2-I could be looking at all the wrong filters...

Filter Forge is a very powerful tool!
I do not have a very powerful brain...
I've been studying other people's filters to see how they achieve certain results. One of the details that I've been trying to replicate is a surface pitting... in Photoshop I achieve this by having a layer in which (lets say I was going for the look of the pores in concrete) I would have some simple random dots that either I created or lifted from some other image... I could then use "Styles" to add a "Bevel & Emboss" to give those pores depth... I do the same with surface irregularities, fissures and grout lines etc... I know this is nothing new and probably standard practice for creating textures via an image editor like PS.
When I examine FF filters that have this sort of detail I see a long line of components and controls to achieve this effect.
Speaking from a Filter Forge beginner's point of view, perhaps if there was a component similar to "bevel and emboss" that would simplify this procedure without a lot of understanding of the other components... something like a pre-made, dumbed down version of that sort of set up, to speed up the learning curve for people who need results fast, yet can't find what they need as a pre-made filter might expand FF's audience a bit, and make it more accessible for beginners.

Once again, I could be looking into the wrong filters or have missed the fact that this feature might already exist, so please don't stone me if this is a stupid idea... I mean you can get me stoned, thats okay... but the hitting with the rocks I'll pass on...
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tigerAspect
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Oh bevel, how I pine for thee... smile:(

Photoshop's Bevel is essentially a Distance transform, which is actually really hard or even impossible to achieve in a sample-based architecture. Basically, it's like dozen or two lines of code one we get pixel-based scripts.

You can kind of fake it with Blur. (another effect that is impossible to be "sample-based" hence why it's one of a handful of pixel-based components and why it's so slow)
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McGyver
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I'm not well versed in this area of CGI to be asking questions about this in a clear enough manner, so sorry.
It seems like some filters do come close to the emboss or bevel effect... would it be too difficult/impossible an effect to translate into a component? Filters that have for example, brick or tile patterns seem to be simulating this effect... Would it still be really hard if the component was meant to be used with only a black and white (external) image so it could isolate one portion as a foreground (black?) and use it only to simulate the bevel on... This is sort of like having a bunch of random black dots on a separate layer, in PS and then applying the bevel to create holes or pores (for concrete).
I suppose it is too complicated, since to get the best result out of that effect one also has to fiddle with the "fill" transparency level as well.
I should really go and learn more about how the nodes or components work before I ask stupid questions.
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tigerAspect
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No, no, it's a valid question. It's so central to doing certain effects in PS that you'd assume you're missing something when you can't find it in FF, I get it.
Mostly, brick or tile filters use the bevel you can get within the various Pattern components, but that's specific to those patterns.

Yes, It'd still be imposible to do actual "Bevel" even on B&W sources (That's the only thing it works on AFAIK), although as I said, you could use Blur to get some gradation going.
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