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chris_p
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My System:
Windows XP Pro, SP2
AMD Dual Athlon 1900+
2Gb RAM
Plenty HD space

Problem:
Try to start Filter Forge: no interface appears, CPU runs at 100%, Filter Forge shows up in Running Processes but only shows around 54% CPU usage. Mouse becomes sluggish, no response from any other inputs. Eventually system locks up and requires a hard reboot.
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uberzev
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Best. Bug. Ever.
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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All that even before trying the slow filters.....
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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Bella
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Very very very strange... smile:|

chris_p, we have a few questions:

1. How many times did you try launching Filter Forge?
2. Didn't it start at least once?
3. How much time did you allow for Filter Forge to start? The first launch can well take about 30 seconds.
4. Didn't you perhaps overclock your PC?
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chris_p
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1. How many times did you try launching Filter Forge?
Six or seven

2. Didn't it start at least once?
Failed to start each time

3. How much time did you allow for Filter Forge to start? The first launch can well take about 30 seconds.
Several minutes - one attempt left running for a long lunch!

4. Didn't you perhaps overclock your PC?
No overclocking.

One further point: I don't think my processors support SSE2... could that be a factor?
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Bella
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Please try the following:

1. Launch from "C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Bin".
Try "Filter Forge x86.exe" and "Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe".

2. If the above doesn't help, reinstall Filter Forge.

Any success?
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Vladimir Golovin
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chris_p wrote:
I don't think my processors support SSE2... could that be a factor?


This shouldn't be a problem -- FF launcher detects the SSE2 support automatically and runs an appropriate executable.
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CFandM
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I'm only running FF on a lowly 1.5 Duron chip and have no problem like above..
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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chris_p
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Bella wrote:
Please try the following:

1. Launch from "C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Bin". Try "Filter Forge x86.exe" and "Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe".

2. If the above doesn't help, reinstall Filter Forge.

Any success?


No, same problem. I'm getting a new workstation in January so I think I'll leave it until then. Thanks for the help.
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Bella
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chris_p, just two quick questions more:

1.
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chris_p wrote:
CPU runs at 100%, Filter Forge ... only shows around 54% CPU usage.


What processes take the remaining 46% CPU?

2. What antivirus/antispyware programs do you use?
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Kraellin
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run dxdiag and do all the tests and then save the file making sure you have checked the box about 'save all information'. if the FF folks here dont mind, post this file here as text. if they do mind, then post it as a .zip file and i'll look at it on my machine.

and as bella asked, i'd try turning off your anti-virus program and uninstall and reinstall FF and try it again. then turn your anti-virus back on. you might also try downloading FF again just to make sure you got a complete download.

you might also check device manager and make sure you have no yellow question marks or exclamation points next to any devices. this could cause software failures also.

also, make sure you dont have two firewalls running at the same time, like microsoft's service pack 2 firewall and something else.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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chris_p
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chris_p wrote:
I'm getting a new workstation in January so I think I'll leave it until then. Thanks for the help.


Just finished transferring all my old stuff to the new (high spec) workstation: Filter Forge works perfectly! (And pretty fast, too).
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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excellent.

so, did you ever figure out the problem on the old rig?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Bella
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chris_p wrote:
Just finished transferring all my old stuff to the new (high spec) workstation: Filter Forge works perfectly!


Congrats on that! smile:ff:

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Kraellin wrote:
did you ever figure out the problem on the old rig?


That's what we'd like to know too.
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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hi bella smile:) welcome back smile:)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Bella
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Yes, we're back after the New Year vacation smile:)
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voldemort
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A very simple trick for those folks with low end machines
first off I use 2 batch files for sytem intensive applications even though I have a powerhouse because I dont like to wait
I have an on and off bat
let me explain
with one bat file I kill all uneeded processes and services and run my application in high priority mode (with just the double click of one batch file)
the second one turns everything I shut off first
so how do we do it

first off you need to know what can run as a bare system minimum and still run your application the best way is trial and error with task manager unless you allready know what ones

to find out the proper names to stop the programs
bring up a console (command prompt and type

""tasklist""
this lists all your running programs
once you have identified the names you want to kill the command is
"" taskkill /IM sol.exe""
if solitaire was what your trying to kill
next not all progs can be killed this way some are services there is a seperate command for that


to find out what ones are listed and their names
type
""sc query |more"
the more command allows you to scroll through the results

the part you are looking for is like this
SERVICE_NAME: dmserver
DISPLAY_NAME: Logical Disk Manager
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(STOPPABLE, NOT_PAUSABLE, IGNORES_SHUTDOWN))
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
the part you want to pay attention to is
service name
to stop this the command is
sc stop dmserver
now the last step how to run in high mode

C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Bin".

this is the path of filter forge unfortunatly it dosnt have a dos name path so how do we find out the dos name

cd c:\
dir /x
it will list long and short names
11/09/2006 09:49 PM <DIR> PROGRA~1 Program Files
01/06/2007 07:06 PM <DIR> PROGRA~2 Program Files (x86)
the second line is if you are running windows 64 bit
the part you want looks like this
PROGRA~1
so the actual path on mine is like this
c:\progra~2\FILTER~1\Bin\FILTER~1.EXE
so to run in high mode
start /high c:\progra~2\FILTER~1\Bin\FILTER~1.EXE

so the whole thing
(solitair as example)

taskkill /IM sol.exe
sc stop sol
start /high c:\progra~2\FILTER~1\Bin\FILTER~1.EXE

now the reverse bat to put everything back the way it was
start /normal sol
sc start sol
the thing about the first command is the fact that sol is path independent most of the things you will be restarting will need a path so it knows what folder to look for the executable is
I wouldnt recomend this unless you have a lower end system and its an application you use alot that is system intensive
but utilizing this method you can shut off all antivirus and uneeded servecis and set the priority of your app in one fell swoop
I use this on one of my boxes that is a lower end machine and doesnt use the internet and it works great

Big warning
if your running windows I dont recomend shutting off your antivirus or firewalls unless your behind a firewall applience but you can reset thier priority temporarily if you will not be surfning the net durring that time




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