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StevieJ
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1) Lighting/height being flattened on high resolution renders... smile:cry:

2) Image resolution being changed to 72 ppi on all images rendered...with image size being adjusted to keep overall resolution... There is no loss...but FF should not be adjusting resolution to something different at all...creates problems for people who need their images to remain at the same size and don't catch the change... smile:|
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StevieJ
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I know that I'm not the only one seeing these things... Shello... smile:|
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Crapadilla
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Clicky! smile:-p smile;) smile:D
--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;)
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Vladimir Golovin
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1) Lighting/height being flattened on high resolution renders...


StevieJ, could you elaborate on this?
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StevieJ
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First, having big problems even getting large images (5000 x 5000 pixels and larger) to start rendering now...and makes Phototshop non-reponsive if I use FF as a PS plugin... See submitted bug reports...

Second, when I was able to render large images...height, reflectivity, and metallic were being lost...matting the lighting effects...
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StevieJ
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Would running FF on x64 system have anything to do with these problems??? Any virtual memory tweaks that will help remedy these rendering problems???

Anyone??? Beuller??? Beuller???
Steve

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Vladimir Golovin
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Second, when I was able to render large images...height, reflectivity, and metallic were being lost...matting the lighting effects...


When you experience matting on resolution changes, are you using any bitmaps in the bump / height subtree?
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StevieJ
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Hey Vlad... No, I'm not... Render at low res fine... Seems to be happening with 5000 x 5000 ppi images and above...
Steve

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StevieJ
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This is getting extremely frustating... smile:cry:

"Bad Allocation" errors before even starting to render high res images...drop resolution, starts to render, then stops with the same error...and if I can get an image to render, the lighting effects are totally gone... smile:cry:

I can't get anything to look like what it does on the display with lighting involved at high res anymore... Only comes out right at low resolutions... Totally frustrating!!! My computer is more than adequate to render these images... What is going on with FF...and is there any solutions to this coming???

Will setting virtual memory to static at 3 times or more than computer's RAM work???

I really need this program to render the way I see it on display and without all the errors...which is wasting alot of my time... smile:evil:

Images below 5000 x 5000 ppi seem to be rendering okay... Everything above that resolution either won't start rendering or stops rendering with the "Bad Allocation" error... If by some rare chance it does finish a render above this resolution, the lighting effects are totally gone...and ends up as a matted render... smile:cry:
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StevieJ
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Here's a reduced 5000 x 5000 render that actually finished...but only rendered part of the lighting effects... Not good... smile:cry:

Steve

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Sharandra
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Have you tried reinstalling FF?
I had a similar issue on a filter a while ago, it went away after an update.
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StevieJ
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Fully updated in v3... Three big problems with all surface result filters...loss of lighting effects with greater resolution...not rendering as displayed...and not completing renders at high resoltions... I'm bumming... smile:cry:
Steve

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Sharandra
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Grrr...now I´m getting these weird renderbugs again aswell. Can I revert to the previous version of 3.0? smile:evil:

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Skybase
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Is the preview what's supposed to be portraying the filtered result or is it a problem?
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Sharandra
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Well I kinda expected to get what I see in the preview, just in a higher resolution, lol. But what I got looks totally different.
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Skybase
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Yeah, previews kinda get a bit biased with final renders, especially when you have a bunch of fine details. Pretty sure I encountered this trouble before as well. In these cases, I just edit the filter to make it look like the preview and that typically is the only solution so far.

But... well.... maybe you're actually encountering a bug. I shouldn't just suggest things really. smile:p
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Sharandra
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Dunno, I usually get what I see. In this case the output looked almost like the original image, just blurred a bit. that was my embroidery filter btw, and in the left image you can see how it´s supposed to look. It has something to do with the image I feed into it, I guess. It works fine with other examples lol. Not tragic, as I was just messing around, but still weird.
Oh and remember that little pond scene I made? I wanted to make that bigger, but when I changed the resolution and applied the Ivy preset, the preview would look the same as before, but the output was completely different.
And that is really not supposed to happen.
And with my wattle and daub filter, I had some presets, which wouldn´t render correctly at bigger then 1024x1024, similar to stevies problem above, but as I said, it went away after an update.

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In these cases, I just edit the filter to make it look like the preview and that typically is the only solution so far.

Yeah we can do that, but what about the ppl who only got the basic edition, or don´t know how to?
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Vladimir Golovin
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This fix may improve the situation:
http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...&TID=10903
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