FF 3.0.14 - Copying some components in filter editor they get modified

Now after having copied the ThreeDee filter and pasted it inside the Derelict filter by Carl comes the surprise and magic

As you can see here below the Profile Gradients and Free Gradient are now changed, and have different settings, so obvioulsy the result is not the same.

http://www.filterforge.com/more/help/.../Size.html

This was the problem. I oversaw the issue myself.
My bad, your the filter does function correctly. I assumed that you just kept the size parameter at resolution width. But didn't realize you set the resolution width down for some presets. Darn, I gotta look at these thing more carefully. This is such a simple oversight. You can forget about the whole thing. Just my error.

[Edits: Clarified issue, added a bit of errm.. personality, corrected multiple times.]

I will start again as in the first post and will try to explain it again in another way with another example to show that this shown on first posts happens many times with ANY filter that includes Profile Gradient, Free Gradient and maybe Offset components.

Then if all the problems as Skybase have said is related in some way to the size slider, I have made this filter to make some tests with it and these components included in this filter and see what happens when using different size sliders and when copying and pasting

Preset 1 = 600 (maximum value)

Preset 2 = 278

This filter is for FF 3.0

Size Slider MODIFY components.ffxml

Yes, because the size parameter is a global parameter (or variable). A global setting affects the filter regardless of how you affect the local settings. Copying a filter from one end to another will copy local variables but not global variables.

The help on size already explains a lot of how the size parameter behaves and what it does. I doubt it needs more explanation.

That's what "global parameters" are.

I mean... do you understand what I'm trying to say?

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Skybase That's what "global parameters" are.

I understand and know what the global parameters are, and know where are they in the settings tab, but what I did not know is that they are not copied when you copy components inside the filter editor, or better said, that these global parameters settings have a strong influence on some components, and so if you do not copy them also manually to the destiny filter, you will get problems when pasting the components that are influenced by these global parameters like for example, Free Gradient.

So these global settings are very important too and you copy components fr om one filter, and is essential that both filters (source and destiny) MUST have the SAME global settings so you can get the same components with same settings in both.

Size - Gobal Parameter

Variation - Gobal Parameter

Seamless Tiling

In all these 3 pages, as far I have seen and understood, I have not found any information about the influence of this settings over some components WHEN you try to copy some components to another filter, and that you must be aware to also copy manually these global parameters settings TOO.

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GMM SpaceRay, please review this help section.

And the link is this one Settings Tab help page wh ere also there is no information found telling that these global parameters are very important when copying components to another filter. The only information available here is this page is "In certain situations, some of these parameters may be unavailable or disabled"

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Skybase I mean... do you understand what I'm trying to say?

Yes, I understand what you want to say and thanks to you I have finally solved the mistery and could find what and why this was happening, and you have been helpful

BUT, what I mean now is that as far as I know I have not found any information in the Help pages or wiki that makes a reference about this important topìc.

I know that maybe is not needed to have the information directly on any of the above links I have put, BUT there is one page that is directly related to what I am telling here

Using Filter Editor - Help page

If you go in this "Using Filter Editor" page to the following part that is related about copying components from one filter and paste them on another filter.

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Cut, Copy, Paste, Undo and Redo To cut, copy and paste selected objects, press Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V respectively. Alternatively, you can choose Edit > Cut, Edit > Copy and Edit > Paste fr om the Editor menu. The Result component cannot be copied, pasted or cut. Connections between components are preserved during copy/paste operations. The clipboard contents are preserved between the Editor sessions, so you can copy/paste components between filters. To undo the last action, press Ctrl+Z or choose Edit > Undo from the menu. To redo the last action that has just been undone, press Ctrl+Y or choose Edit > Redo from the menu. The number of undo/redo levels is lim ited only by the available memory.

You can see that there is NO reference and no information about that WHEN you copy components from one filter to another IS ESSENTIAL that both filters must have the same global parameters settings, and if they do not have the same settings, you must copy manually the source settings to the destiny filter (although this is not always possible depending on the components on the destiny) BECAUSE if you do not care to copy the same global parameter settings, when pasting the components you will get WRONG COMPONENTS SETTINGS.

Do understand you're stemming from several technical misunderstandings of how the program works. Many other programs like this function in a similar fashion. You'd basically be running into the same issue everywhere else.

I don't mind spending a bit of time explaining some of the little things.