StevieJ
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Why does the program have to first render the result to the screen, re-render it when saving, then re-render it back to the screen again??? These re-renders seem to be totally unnecessary... Why can't the progam cache the original render and just re-display it after the save...instead of re-running the image again??? Further, since the original result is displayed at 100%...why can't it be used as the saved result at 100% ??? It seems that re-running the filter procedure two more times is totally unnecessary...and finding a way to re-use the original render would significantly cut down waiting for re-renders...especially on large images being put through slow filters...
Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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| Posted: January 21, 2012 9:08 am | ||||
Morgantao
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As far as I can tell, after the image has been rendered at 100% on screen saving the image takes but a second.
The only time I saw a need to wait for a render in order to save a file, is when the render has not been complete on screen (Note that you have to wait for the Anti Aliasing to finish too). As for re-rendering after a save, I haven't encountered such a thing. After saving an image my filter just stays put on screen, untill I change a setting. Maybe it's a filter related thing, and I'm using the 'wrong' filters. |
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| Posted: January 21, 2012 12:13 pm | ||||
| James |
I agree with this and have mentioned it here before once i think. This causes problems on some computers as the CPU is constantly running high also, so if it were more optimized to just re-render only when needed that would be a lot nicer.
Vladimir once posted some images of a manual preview update which would be very useful - http://www.filterforge.com/upload/for...ate-Br.jpg http://www.filterforge.com/upload/for...ate-Ed.jpg That idea was going to be in V3 but i guess it was never used, i think it would be a great feature if it can be added though and it could probably be adjusted to stop the re-renders also. |
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| Posted: January 21, 2012 12:16 pm | ||||
SpaceRay
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Totally true and agree absolutely with StevieJ.
I have found also that when you: 1 -load an image 2 - load a filter for that image 3 - change the view from "reduced" to "Actual" and so begins to render 4 - Finishes rendering on the screen at full size 5 - Want to SAVE that finished render ? you can´t, FF must render it ALL again to save it  
6 - What is worse is that even after rendering it for a second time after saving and you choose view "actual" it WILL RENDER IT AGAIN !! 
If this was a realtime render or very short time it would not be a problem, but if the render takes about 5 minutes to render EACH TIME it is bad thing
Please, as said very well by StevieJ, Why is not possible to KEEP the first render in some kind of buffer? or be able to save it as a preview buffer to hard drive, or whatever and use THIS FIRST render to any future preview change and to SAVE the image to hard drive ? I think is silly and needless to re-render each time the image. I know this is not surely a bug, and this will not be fixed until a future version of FF sometime next year. |
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| Posted: January 21, 2012 5:54 pm | ||||
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Morgantao
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I think I know why I didn't have this re-render effect. I have the images open and render at "Actual" size as default.
It takes longer to reneder than "Reduced", but it eliminates the need to re-render and re-re-render  |
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| Posted: January 21, 2012 6:17 pm | ||||
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SpaceRay
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How is possible to open images and render them at Actual size by default ? Is this really possible?
Well, if you already do it, it MUST be possible of course, I suposse you do not have any different FF version, do you? 
So I went to Tools--> Options--> Interfaces AND there is it a checkbox called "Reduced preview size for larger images" How could I not have seen this since FF 1.0 I suposse that Has been available since then, and I have not seen it 
Will try this and see what happens, thanks  |
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| Posted: February 1, 2012 12:05 am | ||||
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SpaceRay
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I do not how I have NOT thought about this before
This is true with the standalone version and it happens there. I have just had an insight when working with the FF Plugin version inside photoshop. WHen using the Photoshop version of FF you DO NOT have to RE-RENDER to be able to save it because you ONLY need to click on the "APPLY" button and is instantly saved to Photoshop without needing to re-render, no need to save it to hard drive and render it again. So using the plugin version is much better in this part than the standalone version NOTE: INSIGHT "The capacity to gain an accurate and deep intuitive understanding of a person or thing" |
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| Posted: February 12, 2012 1:01 pm | ||||
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