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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Hello,

I have seen that you can in the online Library you can select to view the filter list by the following:

Featured
Popular
Recent
All Filters by Category

Featured includes only the filters that has been given an EP (Editor´s Pick) Reward

But I have not found a way to select to view only the filters that have been rewarded with an HU (HIgh Usage) Reward.

Please, is there a way to find all the HU rewarded filters and put them in a list as you can do with the featured or recent ones?

Usage Rank --> http://filterforge.com/more/rank.html
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Hi SpaceRay

You post a lot of questions, but this pleases me, smile;) because I had the sames in my mind. Hoping that you (we) will have reply from the FF team. smile:)
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GMM
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It is Vladimir who can decide on this, but judging from our rank explanation

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numerical sorting would place the most popular filters to the top of the list, giving them more and more exposure and, therefore, opportunity to get still more usage ("the rich get richer"). A non-numerical rank lets us avoid this problem


...I personally don't think it will be implemented.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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I thought that there could be a way to do it, but with this answer I think that the answer is no. I am surprised that there is not a way available to be able to find the HU filters

I think that HU filters are probably and posssibly more important, interesting and useful than EP filters because they are choosen by how high usage they have by real people so they must be excellent filters, because I can´t see that a bad filter is able to get a HU.

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Usage Rank is not numerical, it has only three grades: Low, Average and High


I agree totally with this and is very good and well thought that is not numerical and is sorted with the 3 grades.

Perhaps I did not explain it well, I am sorry, I am NOT asking for a list of popularity and do not want to know which filter is most used and has a higher rank, or any other similar thing, this is not the point and what I am looking for here.

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Please, What I only want is to be able to be able to ONLY SEE HU REWARDED FILTERS in the same and exactly way that the featured filters that have an EP reward is shown.

Why would NOT be possible to find the HU rewarded filter if they are the best and most used filters ? smile:?: Sorry, I can´t see a reason why not.

Why can EP filters have it´s own list (that are filters choosen by FF inc.) and the
HU filters that reflects real usage, and it is based on how often people use them can not be found an have also theuir own list ? smile:?:

Do not deserve HU filters be also rewarded with a special list as the EP already have ?

Do not deserve the filter authors to have their own list that rewards his great and hard work, skills, ideas and implementation and well constructed organization?

Why is more important and showable to be able to find EP filters and not HU filters?


Are All the High usage filters given a HU Reward ?

If the answer is yes, it would be probably easy to make a list with only this High usage filters, the same way that are the featured filters.

I really do not know how many HU rewarded filters are but I do not think that they are many and that could fill pages of pages, probably would only be 2 or 3 pages, although I have no idea how many are.

How to show and sort the filters in the list ?

Well it could be used the same method that is used now to show the featured filters whatever it is, or do it randomly, or by any other measure, not numerical.

Alphabetically is not an option as would happen that the A named would be always at top and perhaps a Z filter would be at the end, and perhaps the Z is better than the A filter.
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GMM
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SpaceRay wrote:
Are All the High usage filters given a HU Reward ?


When a filter achieves the High usage rank its author gets a Reward point.


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SpaceRay wrote:
I really do not know how many HU rewarded filters are but I do not think that they are many and that could fill pages of pages, probably would only be 2 or 3 pages


Feel free to count:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Usa...rforge.com
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Rod_D
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Feel free to count


No thanks LOL
Rod
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Totte
Übernerd

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About 5,420 results (0.15 seconds) *lol*
- I never expected the Spanish inquisition
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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GMM wrote:

Feel free to count:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Usa...rforge.com


When going to the link I have seen the google search of:

"Usage Rank: High" site:filterforge.com

YES !!! This is an excellent idea to search, very well thought I searched the same way inside the filter forge search and did not work, and also in google, but you have found the perfect way to do limiting the results to only the FF website. Great.

Thanks very much

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Totte wrote:

About 5,420 results


What ? smile:?: More than 5000 ?????? smile:D I am really surprised

WOW !!! Is really amazing that there are SO MANY HU rewarded filters !!!!

I now know that I was really very wrong thinking that there was only a few, about 300 or so, and there are more than 5000 !!!

I now realize and see why there is not a way to search for HU filters inside filter Forge smile:D

This is also a very good thing which means that there are many excellent filters made all of you that are really very useful and are used very much by many people and are highly popular. Very good for FF.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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On 20 October 2011 when using this very good google search link that GMM has given it had 5420 results

Today 14 March 2012 the same google search gives 10.400 results !!!!!!! smile:?: smile:?: smile:?:

I think that there must be something wrong with this, and looking at the results I have seen that is ALSO included other results that are from the forum and the Filter forge website and not only of the filters

So I have thought to make a new google search ONLY for filters BUT it still gives 9370 results !!!

So still there must be something wrong because there CAN´T be more HU filters than the total filters inside the library that is 8683 smile:D

Well I found something interesting, Google does NOT only give the results of ONLY the http://www.filterforge.com/filters/385.html page, it ALSO gives results as http://ns2.filterforge.com/filters/385.html AND ALSO as http://mail.filterforge.com/filters/385.html AND all 3 are exactly the same filter, and in the results count is put as 3 , so looking at this there must be a lot of DUPLICATED FILTER RESULTS.

So then making a NEW google search without ns2 and mail can give the final REAL result of how many HU rewarded filter are there

TOTAL = 3790 HU REWARDED FILTERS

So this is a real result than can be possible and can be really true.
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Morgantao
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Actually, there are filters that were HU in the past and then have gone down in rating.
If you want to know all the filters that EVER got HU at some point, enter this search string:

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"free copy of Filter Forge." site:filterforge.com/filters -ns2 -mail

and see there's about 4,270 results. Impressive.
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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GMM link = 10.400 results, is wrong for the reasons I have put above

"Usage Rank: High" site:filterforge.com

Sphinx link = 924 results

"Usage Rank: High" site:www.filterforge.com/filters

Morgantao link = 4260 results

"free copy of Filter Forge." site:filterforge.com/filters -ns2 -mail

Spaceray Link without specification = 9370 results

"Usage Rank: High" site:filterforge.com/filters

SpaceRay link = 3970 results


"Usage Rank: High" site:filterforge.com/filters -ns2 -mail




I do not know WHY the Sphinx link gives ONLY 924 results and THE SAME link I have put WITHOUT the WWW gives 9370 results smile:?: smile:?:

I bet that the real and true one could be the one from Morgantao probably, although I can´t be sure
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inujima

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Indigo Ray
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http://golovin.filterforge.com/
smile:pimp:
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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interesting list inujima, thanks, now I have more information to find more clues about how many HU filters really are.

Anyone could help counting them manually ? smile;) smile:D smile:D

smile:D Sorry inujima, you forgot to put the main website of Vladimir Golovin smile:D

http://www.golloween.com/
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Morgantao
Can't script

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Spaceray, I think my number (4260) is the real number for how many filters EVER had a high usage AT SOME POINT.
Sphinx's number (924) is the correct number for how many filters have high usage RIGHT NOW.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Morgantao wrote:

Spaceray, I think my number (4260) is the real number for how many filters EVER had a high usage AT SOME POINT.

Sphinx's number (924) is the correct number for how many filters have high usage RIGHT NOW.


OK, yes, this can be true.

Well, if it is this way I prefer your own version that gives all the filters that had a high usage AT SOME POINT and got a HU

A filter can loose the High usage rank but DOES NOT LOOSES THE HU REWARD because of this

RESULTS AFTER THE INUJIMA´S DOMAIN LIST

According to the list given by Inujima the google search above is STILL wrong, because would still have duplicates from the ns domain, so must add a further -ns

So the right links results that are unique without duplicated ones

Morgantao link = 1600 results

"free copy of Filter Forge." site:filterforge.com/filters -ns2 -mail -ns

SpaceRay link = 1390 results

"Usage Rank: High" site:filterforge.com/filters -ns2 -mail -ns

MorganSphinx ( mix of Morgantao and sphinx links smile:D ) Link = 999 results

"free copy of Filter Forge." site:www.filterforge.com/filters
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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and the gallery:
http://www.google.com/search?q="free+copy+of+Filter+Forge."+site:www.filterforge.com/filters&tbm=isch&source=lnt&tbs=isz:ex,iszw:512,iszh:512
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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WOW !!

Sphinx, very good idea to use ALSO the google images, this really MUCH BETTER AND MUCH MORE USEFUL !!!!

MUCH EASIER also to search and look for the filters !!! Because with only the name is really difficult to know which filter is it.

THANKS really very much for having put this, I do not know why I have not thought also about it.
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Morgantao
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Nice. smile:)
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