Sign Guy
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A member at my sign forum is going into 3D CNC routing and is looking for software to aid him in taking any given image (such as a JPG) in 2D and end up with a 3D file in DXF format. My experience in this area is practically nil and I am wondering if any of Filter Forge's map generating capabilities should be recommended to him as part or all of a solution and how it would fit in.
Fred Weiss
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Posted: July 12, 2010 10:39 am | ||||
CorvusCroax
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Hi Fred:
The end product any machine will need is a .STL file. STL files are the "binary language of moisture vaporators" for most CNC or rapid prototyping machines. By contrast, DXF files are the lowest, crappiest, common denomiator for 3d data... but everything pretty much will read it. DXF does horrible things to your geometry, even 2d geometry- for example it will turn all your curves to straight lines, triangulate all your meshes if odd ways, etc. That said, you can take FF raster output and convert it to either 3d geometry (using a 3d program) or 2d geometry (using something Illustrator) to create shape paths, for cutting. The 3d way is do-able, but it takes some skill w/ some 3d software, and patience and experimentation sitting w/ the CNC machine to make it into something cuttable. If you want a simple cheap place to start, try Bryce. It's free, and you can use it to create a terrain based on an image, then export to .3ds or .dxf. Lots of people also use Blender. (Also free 3d program... but more complicated) Here's a good BCWC blog post talking about their 3d workflow: http://www.becausewecan.org/Blender_to_CNC_Howto btw: The people I know out here in the bay area who do this sort of thing run Shopbot brand machines and like them a lot. http://www.shopbottools.com/ |
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Posted: July 12, 2010 6:31 pm | ||||
Sign Guy
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Thanks Corvus ... that's very helpful.
Fred Weiss
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Posted: July 12, 2010 6:57 pm | ||||
CorvusCroax
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Sure: hope it works out.
Btw: for some other interesting rapid prototyping info, check out Ponoko and Shapeways: http://www.ponoko.com/ http://www.ponoko.com/make-and-sell/laser-cutter-faqs http://www.shapeways.com/ http://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/ They're not strictly the same as CNC, but give interesting background on moving 3d data and designs to the physical materials. Also: I think that Sketchup will export out STL files directly, but I don't know enough about it to say how it does to convert raster data to 3d. |
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Posted: July 12, 2010 7:30 pm | ||||
KGtheway2B
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There's a number of CAD programs tailored specifically for jewelery use (including heightmap conversion) I'd google around and see if any of those offerings might be closer to what you're looking for as well.
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Posted: July 13, 2010 1:59 am | ||||
Skybase
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Yess... triangulation is a horrible thing. I usually just force restore quads to the best of its ability. |
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Posted: July 13, 2010 3:06 am | ||||
cfree68
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Hi Sign Guy,
I've been doing 3d for a few decades now, and have researched and done the 3d print and cnc process several times over. From your post I gather he wants to take an image and turn it into some sort of an extrusion or 3d model using the image and some "magical" software. Its possible for extrusions to do this sort of thing. displacement maps can be created using 32 bit tif files. I wouldn't use a Jpeg or anything that is low rez or compressed since the cnc can do very accurate cutting and a low res model would look like the equivalent of a person cutting the surface with a hack saw. I use Zbrush for most of my modelling and there are several posts on the zbrush forum that deal with creating jewelry and sculpted models for cnc and 3d printing. The nice thing about a program like zbrush is that you can use the low rez jpeg as a bump or brush to create a rough extrusion. Uprez the model to well over 4 million polygons, smooth, add details, then Decimate it to a resolution that can be printed by a 3d printer or CNC mill (they aren't capable of the kinds of poly counts you can get out of modern 3d software). One other thing to consider is that CNC is capable of doing "undercuts" for complex models but those machines capable of it costs well over 100 thousand dollars. In contrast 3d Printers can do any kind of model imaginable, though not with as fine a finish as a cnc machine. 3d printers cost anywhere from 15 thousand to 100 thousand depending on several factors, but a 20k machine can print very fine models as long as the envelope is smaller than say 8 x 12 inches depending on the machine. Hope that helps. colin Fizgig |
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Posted: July 22, 2010 12:34 pm | ||||
Sign Guy
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Thanks Colin.
Fred Weiss
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Posted: July 22, 2010 1:30 pm |
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