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infiniview
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This is a painting that sold for 9,266,500 USD on May 5 '09.



http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/...=159530108




Wow, really?

For fleeting moments I have thought I understood modern art.
But then things like this remind me that I really don't. smile:)

It looks like a pretty easy design for a filter.
What do you guys think.
at least 90 percent of all sensation is texture, even beyond the visual, with elements of noise, tone, gradients, interval and degree.
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Kraellin
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i think whomever bought it is the most pretentious, wasteful person alive. it just goes to show that 'art' is very poorly understood, still. i wouldnt give you 9 mil for the mona lisa. lol. i dont know who bought this, but man, they have waaaaaay too much money... or did. lol.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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CFandM
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Haha good find infiniview..Its amazing sometimes what sells as art..I worked in a gallery at one time for many years and a guy who was a regular customer..(I live in the states) he flew to Germany just to purchase a peice of linen paper with rocks glued to it for 50,000US...The rocks did not even look good..hehe....

Yep it would be an easy design as a filter...Don't think it would go for that much money thou.. smile;) smile:)
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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Sjeiti
sock puppet

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Yeah... Mondriaan of course... that man is an evil genius.
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meyendlesss
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I have a filter that looks a lot like that...
Where do I sell this stuff for that much money?
I'd take a fraction of that even.
Anyone who wants to pay insane amounts of money for artwork drop me a line!
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Beliria
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hey well if they want more art like that I don't mind supplying them for a fraction of that price per piece smile:D
Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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StevieJ
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That's just about as ridiculous as that multi-million dollar painting of just a red dot on a yellow background. Cubism is just as bad.....my kids put them to shame with crayons..... smile;) smile:D LOL.....
Steve

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Kraellin
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my kids put them to shame with crayons.....


hehe, i can well believe it smile:)
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Craig
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StevieJ
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There was an artwork that sold for big $$$ back along.....believe it was a watercolor painting.....and come to find out, it was done by a toddler who was aimlessly playing with the paints. Kinda puts "art" in its' true perspective, IMHO..... smile;) smile:)
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Kraellin
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'art' is one of the biggest misunderstandings in history. once you understand what it is, it becomes a whole lot easier and you dont get fooled so badly smile:) the guy's black lines up above here is art, but it's not 9 million dollar art.
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Philoneus
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Hey, just last month there was an exhibit at the National Gallery in Edinburgh in which one artwork was valued at over $30,000 yet it consisted entirely of a bunch of bananas into which the artist had injected his own urine.

I personally feel that most of what passes for "fine art" these days should really be considered criminal fraud.
I'm in a love-hate relationship. I love the taste of donuts, but hate what they do to my behind.
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Indigo Ray
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Philoneus wrote:
it consisted entirely of a bunch of bananas into which the artist had injected his own urine.

Well, at least he has color coordination. smile:D smile:evil:
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Kraellin
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hehe, criminal fraud. i like that. it's a bit exaggerated, but nonetheless, i tend to agree, somewhat. there is a lot of crap that is being passed off as fine art and a lot of buyers who dont know the difference. but, it's also very true that beauty and art are in the eye of the beholder, so what i may like, you may hate. that happens quite a bit.

what happens in the fine art arena is also art as investment, art as status, and art as bragging rights. and, any of those will always exaggerate the price. a lot of artists play to exactly that. it's like some of the other expensive items one finds out there; they may be well made, but they've somehow garnered that 'status' tag and sell for 10 times what their intrinsic worth is. take Rolex watches. they are well made, but they still sell for way over what they are worth and folks will line up to pay it just to say they have a Rolex. go figure smile:) so, maybe the trick is learning how to get put into that class. then again, maybe it's better to stay away from that whole rigamarole and just produce 'art for the masses'. it's a game either way. decide which game you wish to play and go with it smile:)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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earthbound
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I know this is topic necromancy, but I started an essay on what art is and thought I'd search for other folks thoughts, and I found this, and now I'm curious: Kraellin, where you say:

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'Art' is one of the biggest misunderstandings in history. Once you understand what it is, it becomes a whole lot easier and you don't get fooled so badly..


-- I'm curious: what is your understanding of what art is, and what does that make easier?
You refer to the prophecy of the pastry that will bring balance to the Force. And you believe it's this...donut?
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Ramlyn
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Indigo Ray wrote:
Well, at least he has color coordination. smile:D smile:evil:


Ha! Ha!

I have some comments to do.

1. Art.
I think that originally art was something that, independently on what it represented, had to be nice/pleasant to our senses.
Nice/pleasant is not an universal concept. Everybody feels it in different way.
Then it is not possible to say that a painting, a music, or what else is absolutely nice.
That's why some artwork is appreciated by some and not by others.
But still we can consider it as art.

2. Critics and troubles.
Since the people started to pay for art, some smart and tricky person thought that it was a good timing for coming in the middle between the artists and the buyers, and getting a job where there was no need of them : the art critics.
These "nice" guys decided that they had the right to judge what was nice art and what was not. We can guess the reason : getting money.
-- "The artist wanted to express the pain of his soul when remembering the death of his red fish. The painting is completely white, because he was thinking of the red flowers of his blue dress in a day of fog". -- .... and maybe it was a white paper that the artist didn't use.

3. Money?
We should probably fix a rule. For every luxury item that costs more than 1,000,000 USD, the buyer must donate other 5,000,000. Every 1,000,000 USD more, other 5,000,000 USD are needed. This would help poor people and probably make unsold too expensive art. I guess the prices would re-balance.
And it would be nice to apply similar rules to the entries of some politician, some tennis player, some football player, etc.
No matter how rare is an item or how good is a person to kick a ball, we should remember that there is who dies because he has not even a piece of bread.
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Ramlyn
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Most of the times the critics talk about the feelings of the artist. They speak about the life of the artist. They talk of the period that the artist lived. etc. etc.

A painting doesn't become nice or ugly depending the artist feeling, life, etc.
A painting is what we see. We are judging and enjoying the painting itself, not the feelings of the artist.
Also because the feelings are personal, and we can't expect to understand them. Sometimes we don't even understand our own feelings.

When we put a painting at a wall, even it doesn't represent absolutely anything and even it was randomly painted by a robotic arm, but we like it, that's it. That's what makes that painting worth to be.

Or, when we paint something. We really enjoy it. We look at it and we think "I like it". That's art.
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rachelduim
So Called Tortured Artist

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Art is beauty or not. Art is design or chaos. Art is worthy or worthless. Art is literal or abstract. I am an artist and a fraud. This is as clear as I can make it.
Math meets art meets psychedelia.
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McGyver55
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An expensive painting isn’t expensive because of the artist who made it, it’s because of a person with the capacity to dictate the perceived value of such an item said it is special.
Literally there is no difference between the scribblings of a young child and the greatest master... only whether or not someone has assigned a value to that item and declared it “art”.
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earthbound
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I appreciate these replies to my question, thx.
You refer to the prophecy of the pastry that will bring balance to the Force. And you believe it's this...donut?
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