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Thanks uberzev, the second filter actually shows it in the default pic

Library_2049-1.ffxml

The pic

Blown highlights is clearly your problem. (No detail in certain areas)

Try a blur and noise overlay before the refraction to avoid the artifacts.

Hey Carl, sorry about that..... Uber's right.....that's what happens to a jpeg file when it gets corrected and re-saved too much. I had no idea that those were like that.....

I hope that you didn't trash your filters. If you ever get something like that, it's usually the original image and not your filter.....although there are certain instances where it can be your filter doing it.....

The life preserver has a couple of depleted areas too.....on the inside of the ring.....so that's why I would suggest testing several different images on your filters.....

Ok buddy, are you ready to produce real electricity that form-fits in images??? People say that it is impossible to do.....but I beg to differ Nothing is impossible here.....just have to put some effort into figuring it out.....

As I mentioned.....I think that taking the "CyberGlow" filter.....then stretching, slightly distorting, contrast, and sharpen will give you the thin-fingered electricity.....then you have to figure out the separation and blend to get it to form-fit in the image. Challenging....but can be done....

I would suggest posting your progress and getting feedback as you go. I can envision how to do things, but the actual implementation may be beyond my skill level in some areas like separation. I'm sure that skilled makers like Uber, Dilla, CF, Kraellin, jffe, ssamm, Zeph, ect. ect. will step in and lend a guiding hand as you go too.....

Never say "Die".....because it can be done Did you stretch equally within both of the block components??? Another thing you might try is offset to get multiples of it.....

You may also get this from doing the same dual concept with other noise components.....but you want one that will give you some sharp branching like a tree.....

I have actually created this effect for CF's leafs using one Perlin noise component. Maybe check out what I posted in that string in the 'User Gallery'.....

you sure about that, uber? i couldnt get it to go away.

well, i only tried it with the default lifesaver and couldnt eliminate it.

In the metal powder coating filter I can't seem to get rid of it, it can change the white bits to grey, while loosing the wanted effect, it's slowed it down to snail, as one of my first filters the wiring is weird which may be part of problem....... any thoughts if putting the blur/noise in isn't the solution....... Carl

I guess I will throw my fix in the ring...For some reason when using the reflection
some images will not ahh reflect...So you might have to do some pre-processing of the image before the reflection.....Assuming you are talking about this in the life preserver..

This one is for the metal powder coating filter.

The other one with the fire...That one lyes in the 5-color gradient.....Color 2 and 3
are giving off some weird results....You could change them to a slightly different color...
Don't know how the rest of the images would look but worth a try..

Again a fix again using the offset..Try connecting the offset component inbetween the
Elevation Grad and the 5-color. Then you can use the Hor of the offset component to further control the color to get rid of that weird leftover...
This is what this snippet kinda shows...
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1797.html

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Carl wrote: Wow CFandM fantastic effort

+2 I've learned from this too...

Great group of people here, aye Carl

I think it is entirely dependent on picture information in each image. I think that they are all right.....depleted highlights from over correcting....jpeg images loose info with each save.....and too much contrast will do it too....

You can zoom into suspected areas to see if the pixels differ at all.....or you could run a simple image/result relief filter which will clearly show you the depleted areas of an image....

Try this on the preserver.....


XInfoTester.ffxml

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Carl wrote: thankyou very much Smile ............. Carl

Glad I could be helpful..
Let me know how the fire one turns out....

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Carl wrote: This is how metal powder filter look now, with your snippet CFandM and a few other adjustments, it successfully hides the problem - thanks Big grin which begs the question is this a common problem or a rarity Question ............. Carl Smile

I am with stevie on this. It does depend on the image itself..There are ways to correct it in the filters themselves with the Levels and thresholds or blurs..But then
some need something totally different to make it work...Because the fault lyes not only with the image but with the way the filter is working with the image. So using those blurs, thresholds and levels would not be possible or just slow the filter to a crawl...So there is no universal fix....With FF anyway..

Back asking for more kind help - I've got the fire to stop causing problems [ due to advice ] and unwanted flame fragments are now controllable. Smoke by it self works perfectly, but combined with the fire the same problem rears its head - I tried all the suitable suggestions and my own ideas now understanding the problem. For the smoke to look like smoke it has to be high contrast [ using perlin for smoke ] and can't be roughen up without loosing smoke effect - I'm starting to think there is no solution to the overlaying of both effects causing problem . I will discard smoke if I have to but obviously the point was to have the complete effect.......... sos .......... Carl

Thanks CFandM - tried your idea - plugged into second colour as first is the transparent - tried using different transperant in the three colour and in the different colour numders in the 5 grad as suggested - no differents - think smoke it self is problem, can't noise it up looses smoke look ...... adding file with last preset to use for obvious fault........... thanks again Carl

smoke test.ffxml

Ssamm that done the trick - very clever and simple - Ssamm and CfandM thanks so much, I liked this filter and it is different to the other fire filters in the library and to get it to work perfectly is wonderful so I am indebted to you both and uberzev who earlier made suggestions on this filter.... Carl

Looks like it is coming along nicely!!!