A round of drinks

Rawn, that is most excellent! Thanks for the info.

Now, I'm off for some serious 'shopping'!

A second confirmation. Excellentastic!

Seems like there should be a detailed section about the exact workings of the Reward Program in the FAQ. I had gleaned a completely different interpretation from the info on the reward program webpage!!!

rawn, you are a registered user, right? so, all you'd need to do to migrate to another system would be to download the program again and simply enter your cd key on it. you might have to email FF or something to let them know the old system went kaplunk, but i dont think it would be a problem. as far as i know, and dont say this too loudly, FF isnt hardware registered. it's only a cd key that makes it work. so, when you get your permanent, lifetime or whatever copy, you get a cd key that works with that version. i may well be wrong on this, and i hope FF responds here to verify or deny this, but i think that's how it works.

I assume those who earned their full license as a beta reward will be able to go straight to a life-long upgrade license by spending 5 reward points? Has anyone done this already?

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Kraellin wrote: i'm holding out for two lifetimes

Yeah, me too! Sort of.

I started the "Extending the Reward Program" thread precisely for the reason that I need at least 2 life-long licenses (for my two computers). Strange that Vlad didn't comment on any of my flawed assumptions about how rewards are accumulated and spent.

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* 5 filters = free lifetime upgrades to all future versions

I'm also wondering whether this is per copy or for all licenses purchased.

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* 4 filters = 10 coupons for a 10% discount for your friends

If all ten coupons were spent by one friend to get a 100% discount, why not buy him a free version for 3 rewards in the first place?

yeah, i didnt understand that last one either. just get one free for yourself and send your friend a copy, or just the cd key. seemed odd.

and bear in mind that i may have it ALL wrong. the ONLY OFFICIAL stuff is on that one web page. so, go with that over ANYTHING i may say.

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Kraellin wrote: and bear in mind that i may have it ALL wrong. the ONLY OFFICIAL stuff is on that one web page. so, go with that over ANYTHING i may say.

Well, Rawn's quote from customer support pretty much has me convinced. Now we just need an official sanction on this.

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ahimsa wrote: I see other filters make incredible leaps from 30 pages away right into the HUs and mine for over a month just hover around just a few pages away

Well...the "page 10" method of checking if you are near HU status is inaccurate at best. But I found it a nice guage.
I have had filters sit around that mark and then dissappear many times. Though I do agree, there was a sudden jump in other filters (many of which I dont remember seeing before).
But thats what happens with this type of system. Maybe a new shop found out about this program and they use a specific type of filter, so then suddenly those would get a boost.
So even though some good ones may get pushed back because of it, I still think it is the most fair system.

Rawn

I had one filter jump from page like 30 or so, to page 8, somewhere within 2 weeks time, with no stops inbetween that I saw. That was the only low usage filter (of mine at least) ever to move up. For the most part, I'd have to agree with Rawn's take on that kind of situation, that and the fact that voluntary randomly timed user stats are not telling the whole story, and certainly not in anywhere near real-time.

jffe

Great, you edited. Now I had to edit. Brat!

I do that to. I'm just glad I was able to edit after your edit.

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Crapadilla wrote: 5 filters = get the version 2.0 beta right now! 6 filters = terminate Mac version development immediately and put all efforts into PC goodies!!!

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jffe wrote: Ya'll do realize that a Mac version would expand their paying userbase by probably double (despite the smaller number of Mac users in general) ?

True.....but I'm just being selfish

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jffe wrote: Plus make that many more of your filters go HU

Already have more than I will ever need

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jffe wrote: If yer really bored with this version of FF cause you've done it all, then yer angelboi or crapa or volde, and yer still a liar ha-ha, get back to work, there's waayyy more to be done yet.

You don't think everyone submits their best filter work, do you???

LOL.... good point!!!

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Vladimir Golovin wrote: Dilla, we'll rewrite that webpage soon.

That's good news.

Maybe I'll get my answers when that redone webpage is up, then. Can't be more than a few days now, can it?

i've really no idea what the ratio is, jffe. you may well be right. would be interesting to know what that ratio is. i dont think we have a poll option in this forum, do we? oh well.

yeah, you could well be right, especially with the advent of the basic FF, which doesnt even allow for filter making. good point

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StevieJ wrote: users vastly outnumber authors.....

----That's what I was saying, and just guessing it to be at least 20 to 1 at this point, and bound to increase tenfold over time.

jffe

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StevieJ wrote: I thought you were saying it the other way around.....

----Naw, that's how it started out, back in beta, back when no one got any HU filters cause we were too busy making them ha-ha

jffe