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Rawn (RawArt)
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Ok...this is a new one to me......I just got an email sent to me asking boldly if I would send them my validation code for FF because
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i try desperatly to obtain a free full version of the last filter forge ...and i dont want to loose time trying to build filters that i understand nothing and too poor to spend 299 S to buy it


I am totally shocked how bold some people can be.

Rawn
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Crapadilla
lvl 52 Filter Weaver and Official "Filter Forge Seer"

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smile:eek:
--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;)
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StevieJ
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Heathun Infidel Defiers!!! smile:D Barricade the windows and doors!!! smile:D

Well, they at least know an excellent program when they see it smile:D
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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jffe
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From : <lefredus@yahoo.fr>
Reply-To : lefredus@yahoo.fr
Sent : Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:10 PM
To : kinkos1jeffr@hotmail.com
Subject : www.filterforge.com - message for jffe from Fred from France

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Fred from France has sent you a private message via www.filterforge.com:

SUBJECT: I need help - Filter Forge pleaaaaaaaaaase! ;o)
Hi, man!

Well i'm fred, i live in Nice (french Riviera near Monaco) and i try
desperatly to obtain a free full version of the last filter forge
because im an addict of photoshop (my web site :
http://www.kreazone.hbg.fr) and i dont want to loose time trying to
build filters that i understand nothing and too poor to spend 299 S to
buy it (to expensive and anyway im unemployed for the moment). I picked
ur mail on the forum so can u be so cool to give me a hand and send me a
code for the last version (only the last, the 010 not the 009 cause i
allready have it) or maybe the full one in a .rar pack on my mail :
lefredus@yahoo.fr)

It could be great - cause i really like all the filters the others have
made and i d like so much to use them in may future works.

If u can do something for me please whrite to me back. smile;)

THX

Fred

DISCLAIMER: Any views or opinions expressed in the message above are
those of the sender and are not necessarily shared by filterforge.com.


----FF, please block fred from visiting this site anymore, as he is obviously not going to be a customer.

jffe


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StevieJ
Designer/Artist

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FRED!!! Either save your pennies to buy it.....or use the time that you are putting into this underhanded scheme to make filters. If you are smart enough to come up with this scheme, then you are smart enough to make filters.....
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Rawn (RawArt)
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and yet not smart enough to bother with spell checking LOL

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StevieJ
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Rawn, I think you have a good point there smile;) smile:D LOL....
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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jffe
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From : Le Fredus Nice 06 <lefredus@yahoo.fr>
Sent : Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:02 PM
To : "Jeff R." <kinkos1jeffr@hotmail.com>
Subject : RE : RE: www.filterforge.com - message for jffe from Fred from France

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Ok so maybe u could send me a collection of custom filters (in a .rar pack) already downloaded to put in my old cracked version that is fuctionning good, my friend? No risk for u, no?

Thx a lot

Fred


Mon site a été mis a jour! Retrouvez moi sur http://www.kreazone.hbg.fr

A tout de suite...

----I told him no, suggested he just buy the $99 version at 1/3 the cost of the make your own filters version, and told him to stop bothering people from the FF forums, cause ain't none of us dumb enough to give him our serial code. He replied (above). I am not responding to him further.

jffe
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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#@$@% smile:evil: $#$@% If he makes filters with a cracked version should they even count towards a free version?
FRED: Get rid of that cracked version, download the real version and get making filters towards some rewards or like jffe said. Buy the $99 dollar version.

IMHO.. smile:evil:
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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StevieJ
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I kinda have a feeling we won't be seeing Fred around here again.....
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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what you do is respond to him through a proxy server using a CIA address. they quit bugging you real quickly.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Carl
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He has admitted to a criminal offense of owning a stolen version of ff and stealing all our work the guillotine then a trial is what he deserves smile:evil: smile:evil: It a pity there isn't a way of deactivating the version 9
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voldemort
voldemort
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Got the same email

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jffe wrote:
I pickedur mail on the forum so can u be so cool

You mean Im not that special after all he was just leading me along
smile:cry:

lets all whine for a wine port
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jffe
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voldemort wrote:
You mean Im not that special after all he was just leading me along


----He emailed MadRaven too, and she doesn't even have a full version yet I don't think. He probably just spammed everyone, wonder if he hit Bella and Vlad ha-ha. smile8)

jffe
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StevieJ
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Carl wrote:
He has admitted to a criminal offense of owning a stolen version of ff and stealing all our work the guillotine then a trial is what he deserves

You're right, he has admitted to a criminal offense.....FF should stick him and make an example out of him.....then others would think twice about doing it....
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Revelation

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Crap...and I was gonna ask you all for your serial numbers. Looks like Fred beat me to it! smile:cry:

lol, just kiddin' of course!
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MysticBlueRaven
Texture Artist/ Cavy Slave

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Your right jffe, I got one also, some nerve of him to ask. And if he really loves this filter either he should buy it or get the trail and start making filters.
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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send him the secret serial number that when he inputs it, it will make his harddrive wipe itself.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Foxxee

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Kraellin wrote:
send him the secret serial number that when he inputs it, it will make his harddrive wipe itself.


Hehe... that's mean smile:D
~Foxxee~

You are more than welcome to use and learn from my FF filters ;)
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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indeed smile:devil:
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Presidio
Presidio

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Le'Fred propostioned me...

I wrote him back and told him to ask for an extension... smile;) LOL (((my quirky sense of humor what can I say))....

He wrote me back and asked me for my filter library...

I wrote him back and told him I did not feel right about that and could not do it.

I don't believe in being mean to people. I also beleive most people can be turned around to do the right thing... I hope my emails with Fred have made a difference... and if he reads this I do encourage him to buy the program and save his pennys. Or... to work like a dog and try to get those HU's. ((That is if FF doesn't lock him out for trying to steal the program)).

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ahimsa

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send him the secret serial number that when he inputs it, it will make his harddrive wipe itself.


I like this idea! Is it legal to do? smile:D

I feel left out...I was never asked. smile:cry:



smile:D smile:D smile:D
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Redcap
Redcap

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+3 persidio



If you are bored check out my unpractical math website
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Foxxee

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ahimsa wrote:
feel left out...I was never asked


I was, but my first reaction was to contact the Support Team about it. They let me know I wasn't the only one that brought their attention to it, so I felt things were in good hands and didn't bother saying anything on the boards.

Oh well, he's probably gone by now... just wanted to keep a low profile till it was taken care of smile;)
~Foxxee~

You are more than welcome to use and learn from my FF filters ;)
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ahimsa

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Did everyone but me get one? smile:cry:


kidding smile:D
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Foxxee

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Hehe, it's not really special to be hit by a warez thief. It's like getting fleas and no one wants fleas because they bug you and make you uncomfortable smile;)
SO be glad you were spared, Ahimsa... I hate stuff like this, I just don't make it known openly.
~Foxxee~

You are more than welcome to use and learn from my FF filters ;)
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ahimsa

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I was only kidding. I'm glad he didn't email me. That was incredibly bold though. Hi, would you do me a favor and steal this for me... smile:eek:
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Foxxee

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Hehe, I know... but it happens all the time!
I've heard excuses that they bought to product but lost their product key code, could they borrow mine, please. If that were the case they only need to go to the company and they are usually very good at helping their 'paying' customers smile;)

Hey, where is everyone today?
In fact, where has everyone been since Monday's big Filter Uploads?
It's getting lonely in here. I miss all the chatter I was being entertained with by the guys and they don't seem to be showing up much any more. Hope I haven't offended anyone or said something stupid smile:(
~Foxxee~

You are more than welcome to use and learn from my FF filters ;)
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StevieJ
Designer/Artist

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Foxxee wrote:
miss all the chatter I was being entertained with by the guys and they don't seem to be showing up much any more. Hope I haven't offended anyone or said something stupid

Well, I've been extremely busy lately.....work, family visitting, and other problems that don't have me in the best of moods lately.....as you can probably tell.....but "Bumbles Bounce" smile:D It's not the same without getting a daily dose of "Cheekiness" from Craig and Carl smile:dgrin: LOL....
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ahimsa wrote:
he didn't email me

Me neither.....either he knows what he would get from me by reading my posts.....or he doesn't like my filters smile:cry: smile;) LOL.....
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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i have never been cheeky in my life...flippant, arrogant, beligerant, sarcastic, yes, but never cheeky!
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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ahimsa

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.or he doesn't like my filters LOL..


smile:D


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i have never been cheeky in my life...flippant, arrogant, beligerant, sarcastic, yes, but never cheeky!


Things here are beginning to feel normal again.

I was with Foxxee on this, wondering if maybe I offended you guys.
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Rawn (RawArt)
Texture Artist

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woohoo...another one:

doubleM has sent you a private message via www.filterforge.com: SUBJECT: i want to create some more filtershello rawn, i´m so sad. my trial licence of filterforge is finished. i want to make more filters (for a higher chance to get a free licence of this real good program) but i can´t install another trial version. what i can do? can you help me?


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ahimsa

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I think sending him a note letting him know to ask FF for an extension would be the answer he is looking for. He is not asking for the serial, he's asking for more time to make more filters and maybe earn the program.
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Carl
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Kraellin wrote:
i have never been cheeky in my life...flippant, arrogant, beligerant, sarcastic, yes, but never cheeky!

Only a Grand Master Cheeky could make a statement like this smile:devil:
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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Carl wrote:
Only a Grand Master Cheeky could make a statement like this

rofl smile:D
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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StevieJ
Designer/Artist

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Rawn (RawArt) wrote:
doubleM has sent you a private message via www.filterforge.com: SUBJECT: i want to create some more filtershello rawn, i´m so sad. my trial licence of filterforge is finished. i want to make more filters (for a higher chance to get a free licence of this real good program) but i can´t install another trial version. what i can do? can you help me?

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ahimsa wrote:
I think sending him a note letting him know to ask FF for an extension would be the answer he is looking for. He is not asking for the serial, he's asking for more time to make more filters and maybe earn the program.

Vague, but I would have to agree with Ahimsa....much different than Fred.....DoubleM has been putting some effort into it.....
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ahimsa wrote:
Things here are beginning to feel normal again.
I was with Foxxee on this, wondering if maybe I offended you guys.

Not me.....you guys are great!!! smile:) smile:) smile:)
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Kraellin wrote:
i have never been cheeky in my life...flippant, arrogant, beligerant, sarcastic, yes, but never cheeky!

Craig, you're in denile.....and it's not just a river in Egypt smile:D All those things constitute "cheekiness" smile:dgrin: LOL....
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Carl wrote:
Only a Grand Master Cheeky could make a statement like this

It's true!!! smile:dgrin: LOL....
Steve

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Rawn (RawArt)
Texture Artist

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I apologise....I may have jumped the gun in thinking it was another warez request. Its just odd that someone would send me an email like I know anything of whats going on around here.

Rawn
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ahimsa

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Maybe it's your avatar; it's very buisnesslike. smile:)
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StevieJ
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Think about it from a time-money standpoint......at a very conservative $10.00/hour, a new author needs to create three high usage filters and promote them in 30 hours or less in order to justify it. In my opinion, you have to be pretty slick with software, graphics, and creativity to accomplish that right off the street. It seems to me that most are spending alot more that 30 hours trying to get three high uage filters.....and people like Fred probably realize that, don't want to spend the money, and resort to these means......
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Rawn (RawArt)
Texture Artist

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Ok...since this guy felt the need to write me back, I think it only prudent to share the stupidities:

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I saw u had posted a copy of my mail on the FF forum! looooooool ( no comment!) well you know anyway im no more interested with Filter Forge - I tested it and i have Psp Actions (scripts) and other softwares like autofx etc... that work as well or much more better.
There is also a COMPLETLY LEGAL way to make it work for ever if i wanted to do so is 1°) ----deleted-----.. and its done! you can "play" 30 days more...ever and ever What do you think of that ? You thought i was a pirat but im not...just a man who is bored to see people trying to make money, money, money instead of sharing, sharing, sharing.... thats why ill never go to visit USA! Dollar is a false god! Love an charity are the real one and smartness too! ;o) VIVE LA FRANCE!



my responce:

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I dont know why you felt to need to contact me regarding this, if you are done with your experience of FF, then go and be gone. Obviously the community there is loosing nothing by your absense.

What you consider legal is pure bullshit, finding ways to use something beyond the use offered by the creator of the product is piracy, pure and simple....and yes, i have no problems outing you as the pirate you are/

Though if you did read that thread, you will notice that I never made mention of your name or any such thing.

I dont know what kind of blind ignorant oblivious world you live in where you can think yourself self rightous for stealing software, or asking others to steal it for you. This is the real world we live in, money is a vital part of it. Software like this could not be created and made available if the company does not make any money to cover its costs and expenses. This is life, this is reality..deal with it. If you want charity go to church, business is business. You can go scratch your chalk drawings on the sidewalks of france, and have people throw quarters at you if you want...so enjoy your "free artist" status (I just hope people will give you your chalk for free too, so as to not offend your rightous sensibilities)



Get a grip

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onyXMaster
Filter Forge, Inc.
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Rawn, I think our tech team would appreciate the knowledge about the "COMPLETLY LEGAL way to make it work" to counter this certainly illegal method in future versions. Could you please send the "deleted" using the website contact form along with appropriate comment?
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jffe
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I doubt Fred's way would work, it's about the same as setting back your computer clock, and that hasn't worked on most trials/demos in years ha-ha. Fred doesn't even send personal messages, he cuts & pastes, I got the exact same message from him, so no reply from me, Fred ya lazy punk. smile:p

jffe
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Presidio
Presidio

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Quote from Le'Fred...

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thats why ill never go to visit USA! Dollar is a false god! Love an charity are the real one and smartness too! ;o) VIVE LA FRANCE!


Did he just slam my Country!!!

Le'Fred if you are reading this...

My country saved your countries butt.. do not forget you're country would be speaking German now if it had not been for the 'charity' of my country. smile:D And Le'Fred please feel free to email me personally about this... because I am open to the discussion. And Fred please do not forget,, Americans luv France,,, smile:D In fact I have a dash of French in me. Just a dash..

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Revelation

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You thought i was a pirat but im not...just a man who is bored to see people trying to make money, money, money instead of sharing, sharing, sharing.... thats why ill never go to visit USA! Dollar is a false god! Love an charity are the real one and smartness too! ;o) VIVE LA FRANCE!


Ummmm, YOU are the one trying to get out of paying for the program. Are you saying that if FF were a "French program", it would be free for all? Not surprising...history has shown that France is willing to give away everything...
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Presidio
Presidio

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And Fred, if you are reading this...

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And Fred please do not forget,, Americans luv France,,,


I forgot to add...

But we love England more... smile:D

LOL

True.

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