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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Please, I want to have one image or photo and be able that FF can batch render and make multiple separate results of multiple filters (render each result from each filter in a file) from defined presets.

For example : 1 IMAGE = 15 .jpeg FF filter results from 15 different filters with 1 preset of each filter

All the batch render external tools available in the wiki can only make 1 result with 1 filter and different settings but as far as I know you can´t choose 1 image and multiple filters and presets from each one, and also that some does not work with FF 3.0 components as the sjeiti ffbatch and Questions about using Sjeiti´s FF Batch online application

I am using Windows so I can´t use Totte´s FFbatchmaster that is only for Mac

I have searched in the forum and read many threads about this but have not found about this

I am very sorry that I still have not learnt how to make the needed XML script for the Command-Line Renderer to work and so I do not know well how should I put it to be able to do this above.

I know the following for one image to get one FF filter result that I have copied from a GMM suggestion made on this thread Proper batch tools = instant FF4 upgrade

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GMM
<Task>
<Image value="D:\Sources\1.jpg" />
<Selection value="" />
<Result path="D:\Targets\1.jpg" />
<Filter value="c:\Users\GMM\AppData\Roaming\Filter Forge 3\System\Library\Library_227-2.ffxml" />
<Preset value="1" />
</Task>


So if I want to have 15 different results from 15 different presets filters I should make and repeat this 15 times like this one here above to make the final script?

MY PROBLEM is to be able to FIND the needed information (that is in bold letters above in the script) to fill each one of the XML tasks

STEPS NEEDED FOR GETTING THE INFORMATION

I mean that to do it I have to do the following:

1 - I should go to the drive wh ere the image or photo is and copy the path source and paste it in the script

2 - Then go to the drive wh ere the image or photo is going to be saved and copy the result path and paste it in the script

3 - AND for me the main problem is the filter part:

3.1 - I have to open FF and then find each filter that I want to use, write down the preset number (you have to count by hand as there is no preset numbering) and then and write it in the script

3.2 - after go to "locate filter", and then write down what is the number corresponding to the name of the filter,

3.3 - and then after knowing that number I should go to the FF library folder and have to copy the whole path that goes to this filter like for example c:\Users\GMM\AppData\Roaming\Filter Forge 3\System\Library\Library_227-2.ffxml and and paste it in the script

And so I should do this 6 steps each time for each one of the 15 filters I want to use? smile:?: smile:( smile:cry:

And what would happen if instead of 15 filters are 45 filters? probably It would take a whole day to make the script smile:(

Please, is there any easier possible way? smile:?: , or this one above is the only one possible solution available?, I mean doing by hand and having to do it all one by one and make the script with each one. smile:(

USING PHOTOSHOP ACTIONS

I have Photoshop, so I thought also about using Photoshop Actions instead BUT yet I do not know how to make that the actions stores the fliters and presets

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ThreeDee from here

If you have Photoshop, you can batch process a folder with Photoshop actions. Record the filter into a Photoshop action and batch process a folder that way.

As I recall, Filter Forge will always run the last filter used (and not the actual filter that was recorded) when done this way, so you can't actually store separate filters in separate actions


But then CorvusCroax answered this

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CorvusCroax on the same thread
That's not the case: you can save calls to specific filter forge filters inside photoshop actions. This is actually a great feature IMHO, which I've used to do all kinds of automation for large #'s of files. (and... I just tried it and it still works.)

So, you could have one action run FF filter A, and then have another action to run FF filter B. It appears to remember even which preset you used (although you could put a hold/input step in there, if you wanted)


But I still do not know how to save specific FF filters and presets inside a Photoshop Action

Thanks very much for any help
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ThreeDee
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I tested this, and Photoshop simply saves the settings when you run the filter while recording the action.

Here's one way you could get multiple filter results with Photoshop actions.

0) Open a document. Create a new actions and start recording.
1) Duplicate the image
2) Run the filter of your choice the duplicate
3) Save the filtered image with a custom file name (such as "Filter1.jpg") in your preferred batch output location
4) Close the duplicate, leaving the original open
[repeat 1-4 for every filter you want]
X) Stop recording

Then you can run this on any image from the Actions palette. You just have to move the earlier files from the output folder first, as the new ones will overwrite them.

I don't know whether it is possible to combine multiple outputs with a Photoshop batch. When I tried to run this as a batch, the later images overwrote the earlier images.

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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ThreeDee

I tested this, and Photoshop simply saves the settings when you run the filter while recording the action.

Here's one way you could get multiple filter results with Photoshop actions.


WOW! Thanks very much for this action suggestion, is a clever and good idea on how to use an image and then make a copy to repeat it a number of times and save the result.

Now I have seen that Photoshop CAN really KEEP AND STORE all the settings of any filter and preset that you use while recording and action (at least in Photoshop CC, have not tried it yet in Photoshop CS6) and this is very important, as you can then make many multiple actions following your suggestion for each of the filters and then run all this action from another bigger action that would call all this smaller actions.

I have seen that there are lots of tutorial to use plugins with ONE ACTION applied to multiple photos, BUT none of the tutorials are for ONE image and multiple actions, as the Photoshop BATCH processor or Image Processor ONLY have the option of using just ONE only action, so you have to combine them to make only one or find an alternative method.

USING PHOTOSHOP SCRIPTS

I am also looking if there could be an alternative by using the Photoshop Script to make Batch Processing in a different way

Just found this interesting PS Scripts forum

And also have seen that there is a VISUAL SCRIPT MAKER for persons like me that does not know how to script and want to have a VISUAL way to make them by drag and drop or like the way you make actions in Photoshop

Photo Script Builder
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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I haved found again this thread when looking for another different thing, and now I am happy that this that I have asked here IS NOW POSSIBLE in a easy way thanks to the great and awesome work of aba with his Batch GUI Tool for Windows.

The only bad thing is for Mac users that do not want or can´t use a Windows emulator

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1 IMAGE = 15 .jpeg FF filter results from 15 different filters with 1 preset of each filter


To be able to reproduce what I have put on the first post using this tool

1 - Sel ect the first filter that you want, for example fr om Effects --->Photo -->Angel
2 - Select the preset that you want (it can be one or more)
3 - Use a single image as source
4 - Go to stack control and click on add filter
5 - Select the second filter that you want to have
6 - Select again the that you want (it can be one or more)
7 - On source image select "same input as previous filter" and then choose previous filter, in this case, "Angel"
8 - Go to stack control and click on add filter
9 - Repeat steps 5 until 8 until you have a stack control with six different filters (change the filter on step 5)
10 - Go to Run Batch and choose your choice for output images and define the source directory output
11 Click on "Create and execute Batch"

I can´t thank you enough aba for making this amazing and very well done tool that is very useful and wonderful that will transform and change the way is FF used and is now MUCH EASIER AND MUCH BETTER to use the batch render.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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I have just found this again, and apart from using the above, Since 2013 there are good news that now more available options to use either for Windows or for Mac

For example if you use Windows the most recent and updated one to even work work with FF 10 beta is

FF Easy render 2.1 batch from FF Creator

You can find a list of the avialble tools of the batch render tools in the FF wiki that can be found here

FF Wiki main page and go down to the part wh ere is put External Filter Forge tools
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nutri
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Hello,
I'm trying to use filterForgeBatchWrapper but it's not working. I followed the instructions on the pdf. I'm using FF10/win. Any suggestions to generate images with variations of the same filter? Thanks
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emme
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nutri wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to use filterForgeBatchWrapper but it's not working. I followed the instructions on the pdf. I'm using FF10/win. Any suggestions to generate images with variations of the same filter? Thanks


Did you check out FFEasyMorph and FFEasyRender? They work great with FF10. Links here: https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...&TID=16086
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