For Totte - How to use the render maps from FF in Daz Studio 4.5

Hello Totte,

I have seen that you have really great experience in 3D with DAz Studio software as you have shown in the Cow Dong thread and that it looks really well done.



So I want to ask if you know a tutorial about how to use the textures and render maps that are made from filter forge inside DaZ Studio 4.5 so you can make bump maps, displacement maps and others.

I have tried myself to load the render maps made in FF into Daz Studio settings for materials and then I can only use and see the diffuse map, none of the others render maps works after I load them, I mean that the settings do nothing.

I want to know if this is possible to make in Daz Studio or not, and only ask you if it is something simple to explain and do, or you know a tutorial that explains this.

I mean to make something like this shown here in this thread
Examples of Spherical 3D Displacement Previewer by ThreeDee





Thanks very much for your help

lol DAZ's documentation website is broken and documentations are always in draft mode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...ajlRhJfU#!

http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/artzon...splacement

I personally don't use DAZ stuff so I can't tell you but I dug up some documentation that you might be helpful. If anything I typically tell people to look for documentation but in this case DAZ's documentation of their own products fails detailed explanation for each part. I should go and email them about their user manual / documentation because it's critical to those who use the software.

I think that I will follow the Skybase suggestion and good one it is to learn better Blender or/and Carrara and will not continue searching for knowing how to use Daz Studio and will begin to learn how to use Daz Carrara 8 Pro trial available here and Blender instead as there is more information and tutorials AND this software has more professional features and more interesting things available


Like for example the Carrara Surface Replicator

AND very important OpenGL Hardware Accelerated Preview

And Carrara has nearly full compatibility with the Daz Models available so there is no problem.

And by the way, regarding software, it doesn't matter which software you start with, but you have to promise yourself that you'll stick with it until you understand what you're doing there. You really have to start somewhere with technical software. Carrara or Blender or DAZ 3D or Bryce or whatever else is out there, you have to stick with it until you can be sure you're making progress. I just suggested Blender because it's free and feature rich. I thought you'd might take some interest in it.

It's probably the most restrictive measure you can take on your own interests but what I mean is, once you understand your basic principles of 3D stuff, you'll have no issue going to bigger software. It'll be a breeze.

The terminology in 3D art becomes incredibly technical. Each and every term matters and it's crucial you understand what each property means as much as how they'll affect your overall result. Sometimes this becomes the biggest problem of 3D software and most people fail to catch up. But it's industry standard and if you want to do 3D art, it's something you'll have to learn anyway.

Everything in the end will help you in the long run, but you gotta be patient with some of the tools you're using. They're ridiculously powerful compared to stuff I used to play with when I was a kid.

... should just make a quick video tutorial just for you.

It's "ridiculously easy" in the sense that most of the things are given to you. The parameters are "out in the open" unlike Maya where you have to hook the displacement map as a node into the shader. (Actually more powerful this way.)

Either way regarding complex geometry, I meant actual objects (tables, chairs, computers, human figures, lizards, clothes... whatever) much more difficult. Although cubes, cylinders, cones.. all have UV maps parametrically laid out, these objects tend to be ridiculously easy to deal with.

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If they are seamless tiling they should work, although you may be right that in the sphere there is NO BORDERS and in all the others there are borders and different faces and parts, and there are joints.

This isn't always the case. If you rendered a map that's 1:1 ratio (width and height), you need to set your tiling to integers or otherwise the seamless tiling will fail where the UV borders are. Following the same logic if your seamlessly tillable texture happens to be 1:1.5 then you have to accordingly set your tiling ratios. Typically all seamlessly tillable textures should be 1:1 ratio, although there are no rules specifically saying that, you just either work with easy numbers or you don't.

You will also face challenges and problems such as stretching, tearing, and deformed textures and so on as you start getting more into actual modeling and 3D. I guess for now it's not a concern.

Typically DAZ makes their software for beginner/consumers so much of the interface (from the days of Meta Creations) tends to be very ... clunky. But for those matters the software is partially easier to use than most others. Many "typically complex" features are available but with less control over them.

DAZ Studio 4.0

I have tried again in DAZ Studio and after filing all the data in the surface parameters and loading all the needed render maps even a new local map, it does not work when I render it it seems that I putting right the data inside the parameters but there is surely something missing

CARRARA 8.1 Pro

I have followed the good link and tutorial given by Skybase here

Tutorial 14 : How to Setup Photorealistic 3D Textures in Carrara

BUT this tutorial does not work because the options and parameters are NOT THE SAME and even trying to configure the parameters with the render maps in another similar way it does not work either, I get weird results

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Morgantao I vote for a blender video tutorial

Perhaps this very good and complete Blender tutorial for displacement maps would be helpful to you.

Blender - Displacement mapping

I have not tried this yet, and now is the next step, as I have not been able to make any result with Daz Studio or Carrara, I will try if Blender is better or easier to understand and configure the parameters settings.

Hello!

I missed this thread!

I've created several objects with textures generated in FilterForge, this one is my last object.

Maybe I should write s tutorial on the subject on 4eyes, it's a little hard to explain other that that DS (DAZ Studio) takes, diffuse, bump, displacement maps, reflectionmaps and it's pretty straight forward setting things up.

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Totte: Maybe I should write s tutorial on the subject on 4eyes, it's a little hard to explain other that that DS (DAZ Studio) takes, diffuse, bump, displacement maps, reflectionmaps and it's pretty straight forward setting things up.

Thanks very much for answering, please if this would be a complex thing and would be difficult to make, please do not worry to make it, I do not want that you spend time to make something like this if it involves explaining a lot of things.

I have been searching for already available tutorials but have not found any yet that explains this.

SpaceRay, I think you're over thinking the methods it's pretty simple to do overall and it takes almost no time to understand it.

Regarding any tutorial, because of the simplicity of it, it takes almost no time to make it, and plus I really don't think its a waste of time since I generally also teach stuff like this, so it'd be good practice. Plus it helps people. That's what matters most. I'm happy if it helps somebody.

baah, where did the image go?? Stupid FORUM!