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ok, i suspect this is probably just related to the bug on opening a new image from file> open, but here we go anyways.
in the editor if you do a file> open and it's within a filter that has a color component with the preview images enabled it will work. however, if you already had another image openened you'll get both images still open!
ok, i better break this down a bit more. i have a filter with a color component with preview images enabled. and, within the editor i opened an image using that component to open a remote image. that worked fine. i also just happen to have an UNCONNECTED image component within this filter. when i use file> open it opens that image within the image component, but NOT the color component AND on my results, i can see both images, or at least parts of both images. remember, the image component is NOT hooked into the rest of the filter. it has NO WAY of being part of the results! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 1, 2011 11:45 am |
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ok, and this may be a completely new bug in itself, but i'll post it here because it's the same filter and a result of simply continuing to work on the filter and bug finding.
i decided to save this same filter as a new filter, not wanting to mess up the original. i saved this off and closed the editor and when the presets came back up they were all changed. in the original filter they had all been saved with images, mostly the lifesaver, but some of the later ones with preview images and the last was set with the weird double external image mentioned in the above post. when i close it up this time, all the presets had gone to simple colors, not images.
and, in the original filter, the presets still looked right, all being images, but when i clicked on any of them, they too all came up as simple colors, not the preset images. the presets did remain showing the images, but clicking resulted in colors only. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 1, 2011 11:52 am |
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ok, this is completely bonkers. one of the images i loaded in a completely separate filter is now showing up in another filter. this is completely warped. i'm going to shut ff3 down and restart. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 1, 2011 11:59 am |
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ok, restarting seems to have fixed the last problem mentioned... for now. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 1, 2011 12:00 pm |
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GMM
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Either I'm unable to see your point or you're not certain how external images in Color controls work  Could you please update the beta and post the filter.
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Posted: October 3, 2011 2:20 pm |
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are you saying that even without an image component and with the color control component set to, let's say the 'garlic' preview image, that if you file--> open an external image that it will also show up in the results if the preview image is larger than the garlic one? and if so, that's just warped... and that's what's happening. i'm pretty sure that it used to be that a transparency was put behind the smaller image before.
try this on your copy: 1. load a filter with a color component set to images enabled.
2. make sure the filter you are using has NO "image" component within it.
3. file--> open any external image larger than the default preview images.
4. set your color component image to the lifesaver preview image at 600x600 the default.
your externally loaded image will show up behind the lifesaver. that shldnt be. i dont care if this is a bug or not. with only one actual component within the filter allowing images, the image loaded with that component shld be the ONLY image in the results. any default image shld just automatically be unloaded! otherwise, you wouldnt be able to have a blank, transparent background unload you loaded that as your default image, which is just odd in this case, at least to my way of thinking. but, give me a rationale and i'll shut up...maybe  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 3, 2011 2:57 pm |
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also, and i dont know any way around this one, if the behavior above is the way it's supposed to work, then there's still a small problem with the presets. the larger image wont show up in the preset or even show a transparency if the aspect ratio of the larger 'background' image is a vertical. it will only show the square preview image.
one last arguement on the above post: if a filter had NO image component or other image loading type component, you'd get the error graphic in the results. so, if the ONLY image loading component is the color component enabled to load external or preview images, then there shld be NO other image loaded by default. it makes no sense. you're imposing an assumed desired other image where it shld be left to the filter maker and user to decide what images to load or not. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 3, 2011 3:14 pm |
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My externally loaded image doesn't. It only defines the canvas size (despite the Image component is not present). Here's what I get:
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Posted: October 4, 2011 4:08 am |
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yes, that's how mine used to work before the recent updates, but now, if the external image is larger than the one in the color component, you see the external image.
attached is a screenshot. i assure you there is no other image component in the filter... just the one that isnt attached to anything. the filter is a simple filter.
and yes, it's still doing it today with the new hotfix. i just looked at it.
windows 7, 64 bit.  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 4, 2011 8:56 am |
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i just made a completely new filter and it still works this way. so, it wasnt something that occurred to my previous filters.
also, i'm a little curious here. why would loading an external image through file--> open have any effect on anything, even the canvas size, if you have no image type component in the filter? i can understand it within the color component if you're loading an external using that, but why if there's no image component? i mean, this is assuming an awful lot about what i want or dont want in my filter. why not take that feature out and simply add a canvas resizing component or add the feature to the color component or something? it just seems like an added and unwarranted assumption in this particular case to include it when no image component is loaded.
lol. or am i missing something here? it wouldnt surprise me  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 4, 2011 9:13 am |
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Yes, I use a 1280x1024 external image and can't reproduce what you're showing on the screenshot. Can anyone else confirm this issue?
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Posted: October 4, 2011 9:17 am |
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have any effect on anything, even the canvas size, if you have no image type component in the filter? i |
I agree this may look weird. Feel free to repost this in the Feature Wishlist forum where Vladimir can notice it.
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Posted: October 4, 2011 9:18 am |
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ok, you have me wondering now if it has to do with my screen resolution. i'm using 1680 x 1050. that would be weird. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 4, 2011 9:34 am |
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