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gws2241
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Umm, this latest beta isn't working for me. Not at all. The program freezes whenever I try to open an image, requiring Ctrl/Alt/Del and making it unusable.
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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Yep got that one...It freezes when choosing from the File menu rather then an input...
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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Jonathan Curiel
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Same here. File --> Open Image --> Select any image file.

Program just freezes.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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The new beta does not work at all, whatever you try to do with a different image than the preview one FREEZES ? Here we going to enter the Autumm, so it can´t be because of Freezing winter weather. smile;)

Could it be that you uploaded a wrong file version ?

Is great that the new beta have taken all the filters and configurations, and the key from the previews beta.
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blackcat77
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I don't understand why a new update has to be forced upon the user, as opposed to just letting the user choose if they want to install it or not. And if you are going to force the user to update, you could at least check that the update is actually working.

This is not some obscure bug we're talking about, the program can't even open an image.
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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blackcat77 wrote:
I don't understand why a new update has to be forced upon the user, as opposed to just letting the user choose if they want to install it or not. And if you are going to force the user to update, you could at least check that the update is actually working.

This is not some obscure bug we're talking about, the program can't even open an image.

ahhhh..Its a Beta not a final release....You can choose not to install it if you so chose to... smile;) smile:)
Go to the tools menu and go to the "online" tab and you can chose to not be notified of updates and such......
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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Paula Sanders

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I can't open the new beta at all and can't put back the old one because it will not work.

Now I can't use Filter Forge 3 at all.

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Kraellin
Kraellin

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mine also freezes with no recovery possible when i use 'file> open'. however, it does NOT freeze when i use the control component to 'load image'. that works fine.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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also, if you're using any version of windows to download and install tthe new version, make sure that your file size is what the website says the file size is supposed to be. windows downloaders are notorious for NOT downloading the entire file.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Crapadilla
lvl 52 Filter Weaver and Official "Filter Forge Seer"

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Same here. smile:(
--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;)
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PhotoComix
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It doesn't freeze for me, it abort before finish to load

File size is correct, i try to reinstall avoiding overwriting, so with a clean install no joy

I tought could be a win 7 lock (you know 7 place locks on everything on Program Files to "raise the security level" ) so i reistalled again in a different directory, again it abort at start up
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Rod_D
have you seen my eraser?

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The only problem i have had (and this just started), is trying to use a new image from my machine.It worked fine even after the update but just now starting doing this.

Weird.

I know FFis connected to the server when you use it.I wonder if that is the problem?
Rod
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PhotoComix
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PS

here the bug log, i already send automatically but since i would not mind a free copy and automatic report don't count here it is

Operating system: x64 Edition (6.1 build 7601) Service Pack 1
Physical memory: 8182 MB
Number of processors: 4, available: 4
Processor info: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz, ~2253 MHz

Filter Forge x86-SSE2 3.004.22135.32562 Release-SSE2, September 30, 2011 15:34 [02/10/2011 14:17:57 ora legale Europa occidentale]
[Controls::Control] Exception occured while processing window message 0x00000201(WM_LBUTTONDOWN) (0x00000001 0x007600D2) for window 000E040C/000E040C, control: <class Controls::SplashControl>@017B9450.
Exception caught at thread 00000D04 'Application':
<class XFW::OSCallError> form.GetThemeMetric failed failed.

<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005B22F0 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 00DBD224 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 0047D082 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005556A2 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 00555F45 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005B160C in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005C228E in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : gapfnScSendMessage()+818 at 75AA62FA in C:\Windows\syswow64\user32.dll
<unknown file>(0) : GetThreadDesktop()+215 at 75AA6D3A in C:\Windows\syswow64\user32.dll
<unknown file>(0) : CharPrevW()+312 at 75AA77C4 in C:\Windows\syswow64\user32.dll
<unknown file>(0) : DispatchMessageW()+15 at 75AA788A in C:\Windows\syswow64\user32.dll
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005AE532 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 006D1320 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 006D0EDC in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 005AEC7B in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 0057B966 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 00550D11 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 0040F81B in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 006CEEFF in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 00788077 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 006CDD00 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 006CECDA in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 0081EEE4 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : <unknown function>()+0 at 008ADE83 in Filter Forge x86-SSE2.exe
<unknown file>(0) : BaseThreadInitThunk()+18 at 75DC339A in C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll
<unknown file>(0) : RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+99 at 77E49ED2 in C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
<unknown file>(0) : RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+54 at 77E49EA5 in C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll
CONTEXT_CONTROL: CS:EIP 0023:755CB9BC, SS:ESP 002B:00184268, EBP 001842B8, FLAGS 00200212
CONTEXT_INTEGER: EAX 00184268, EBX 0000000B, ECX 00000003, EDX 00000000, ESI 00B03704, EDI 001842F8
CONTEXT_SEGMENTS: DS 002B, ES 002B, FS 0053, GS 002B
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Rod_D
have you seen my eraser?

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I wonder if it is possible that when you download future updates you could get an option to just download the files needed to update the program via zip file and just un compress that zip to the Filter Forge 3 directory?

It could make for a lot less file dl size,and you would only be updating relevant files.
I am glad i kept the last version install. smile:)

I wonder if this - <class XFW::OSCallError> form.GetThemeMetric failed failed

is the new re-sizable panel part of the program?
Rod
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Please CFandM let me borrow your text and change it a little

Stupid things happen to Beta Software for stupid reasons at stupid times!

I do not know how is possible that they have released the new beta on friday smile:?: which is a stupid time because the FF team is not working on weekend.

I was working in a interesting test with FF 3.0 Beta version 2 and have been waiting ALL the week for the weekend to be able to continue with it and then surprise, surprise on friday FF releases and NEW version that block version 2 BUT the new version is really dysfunctional, impracticable, inoperative, nonfunctional, unfunctional, unproductive, unusuable, unworkable, worthless.

I am sorry FF but this gives me a very high deception.

A whole weekend lost without FF 3 that was hoping to work with.

Also lost much time trying to get FF 3 beta 3 to work with no luck, making a clean install, cleaning registry, and amking test to see if it could work, but nothing can make FF 3 work right. smile:evil:
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StevieJ
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The HUGE problem that I'm having with all this is that the program is not supposed to be connected to FF unless you are either manually updating, downloading filters, or have it set to check for updates...and mine was none of the above...so FF reached out to my computer without my permission and blocked me from using the program...and that's a big NO NO!!! smile:evil:
Steve

"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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SpaceRay wrote:
Please CFandM let me borrow your text and change it a little

Stupid things happen to Beta Software for stupid reasons at stupid times!

By all means please do...Oh wait you just did.. smile;) smile:D

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SpaceRay wrote:
Also lost much time trying to get FF 3 beta 3 to work with no luck, making a clean install, cleaning registry, and amking test to see if it could work, but nothing can make FF 3 work right. smile:evil:


Thats why I make it need to download every installer (especially alpha and beta versions) that was ever posted...Its been a long practice and seems like a trivial and hoarder practice but if something every was to arise such as this, I would have a way to install an older working version of that software that was tested or used....
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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KirkDunne
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Glad to see I'm not the only one, came in here just to see if anyone else was having my problem. My situation is like Paula Sanders' screenshot above, can't even start the FF 3 beta at all.

<class XFW::OSCallError> form.GetThemeMetric failed failed.

<insert.sadness.here>

Kirk
www.kirkdunne.com
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Paula Sanders

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CFandM - I downloaded all the installers and tried to put the one before this one back. It says that it needs to be updating, so I can't use FF3 at all now. I always keep older versions when there are a number of new I went back to FF2, but all of my changes made recently were in FF3 so I basically was going back about 6 months.

I hope this problem is solved on Monday.
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KirkDunne
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This will also teach me NOT to build/edit new filters in a beta, lol. (filters that I might end up really needing, anyways). Build those in version 2...THEN take it over to version 3 beta.
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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Paula Sanders wrote:
but all of my changes made recently were in FF3 so I basically was going back about 6 months.

Yep I know what you are saying there.. smile:| smile:) I have to go back about 2 months to get the previous version to work.. smile;) smile:)
Have some version3 filters still unfinished.. smile:)
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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pixel8ted

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I am also running Filter Forge x86-SSE2 3.004.22135.32562 Release-SSE2, September 30, 2011 15:34

I had not noticed this because when working on images I use FF as a Photoshop plug-in when filtering images. So far...knock on wood...it is running fine when used as a Photoshop CS3 plug-in. It is also functioning as a plug-in in Corel Painter ix.5. After seeing this thread, I tried opening an image using File<Open in stand alone mode just to see what would happen. It froze.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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KirkDunne wrote:

This will also teach me NOT to build/edit new filters in a beta, lol. (filters that I might end up really needing, anyways). Build those in version 2...THEN take it over to version 3 beta.


Yes it is true, you can not trust anymore in FF releasing betas that work as they have done before, and work building new filters on these betas because you do not know when they are going to release a new beta by surprise and then block the previous beta and you will not know if the new beta will be working or not as before.

The problem building them before in version 2.0 and THEN taking it over to beta 3 is that you willnot be able to use any of the new features for this filter construction.

Or begin building using the features that are from 2.0 and then when you reach the point that you will need the 3.0 features transfer it to beta 3.0, but know that any day this beta can be blocked and locked out and you will not know if the new beta works in the same way as the previous beta.

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Paula Sanders wrote:

I always keep older versions when there are a number of new I went back to FF2, but all of my changes made recently were in FF3 so I basically was going back about 6 months.


I too also keep always the old version until the final new official version is released, and also had the FF 3.0 more actualized and configured BECAUSE FF 3.0 takes over the activation of filter loading from Browser and FF 3.0 beta is the default when starting from filter download from browser, but now I do not have it anymore since the beta 3.0 version 3 is released and blocks any previous.

Although I learnt from the previous beta 2 that you can´t trust in this and you can open FF 2.0 BEFORE trying to download any filter that is important and you need and so the FF 3.0 will not be activated, and now with the great Beta 3.0 version 3 freeze unusable can´t trust anymore in the beta as main program, just only as a test as they release a new beta by surprise and blocks the previous beta and can´t be used anymore and if there is some problem like now you are without FF.

With this new freezing Beta 3.0 version 3 they have frozen my trust in FF and do not know how is possible that they have not tested and released a working version like Beta 3.0 version 2. smile:(
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Rod_D
have you seen my eraser?

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Did you try installing (older version of FF-3),into a different directory name other than overwriting the current version you have installed?You would only need then add your license information after i think.Because installing into a different directory will not update the license to the new install.You would have to do it manually.
That may work.
Rod
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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If one just could go back in time.. hmm I wonder how smile;-)
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Rod_D
have you seen my eraser?

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System restore always works for me LOL
Rod
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jffmiller
Jeff Miller
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This is very painful, and it didn't need to be.

Forced to update - never good
Bad update - never good
Friday update - beware
No support for days after update - never good

For those of us that are trying to work and need FF this is a very nasty episode.

BTW Rod, there is no way system restore works when the update is FORCED.

Yikes!
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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jffmiller wrote:

This is very painful, and it didn't need to be.

Forced to update - never good
Bad update - never good
Friday update - beware
No support for days after update - never good

For those of us that are trying to work and need FF this is a very nasty episode.

BTW Rod, there is no way system restore works when the update is FORCED.

Yikes!


Very well said, congratulations for putting such amount of very wise words. Perfectly said.

I tried to install again back Filter Forge 3.0 Beta version 2 and it does not work as say it us outdated.
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GMM
Moderator
Filter Forge, Inc
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We've updated the beta, please redownload from our beta page.

PhotoComix was the first to post a full bug report on GetThemeMetric failed — that's one bug point for you.
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Paula Sanders

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Thanks a lot. Now it works great on my machine. I appreciate your fixing it so quickly.
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CFandM
ForgeSmith

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Sphinx. wrote:
If one just could go back in time.. hmm I wonder how smile;-)

All you need is a DeLorean and some plutonium to keep that Flux Capacitor fluxing..... smile:D
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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KirkDunne
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Thanks Filter Forge, working like a dream now. smile:D
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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CFandM wrote:
All you need is a DeLorean and some plutonium to keep that Flux Capacitor fluxing.....


Actually a few mouse clicks in the lower right screen region will do smile:-p
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Rod_D
have you seen my eraser?

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jffmiller
Jeff Miller
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This is very painful, and it didn't need to be.

Forced to update - never good
Bad update - never good
Friday update - beware
No support for days after update - never good

For those of us that are trying to work and need FF this is a very nasty episode.

BTW Rod, there is no way system restore works when the update is FORCED.

Yikes!


WHEN? ... Did i ever say System Restore would bring back your FF program?
No I didn't.I said ...
"After being asked .. > now i wonder what would turn back time?" My reply was System restore always works for me.
And yes system restore does take your computer back in time. smile:)
Rod
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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And yes system restore does take your computer back in time.


Well I guess in some sense, but you know what - the system time is still up to date after restore (hint hint) smile:D
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