Opening V2.0 Filter Submissions

I created this thread only because Vladamir mentioned:

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opening the library for submissions of V2.0 filters

and made me think that this passionate community might have some good thoughts about the matter. I'd hope that the FFinc team could peruse through this thread and perhaps pick up an idea or two.

I'll put my proposal in the following posts.

The two libraries would include three types of filters (and some coding magic would provide the website a way to differentiate between them)

V1 filters (Yellow Highlight)
V2 only filters
V1 filters updated using V2 features (Yellow Highlight)



Users on the forum would have the same "Filters:##" as they do now, the total of filters is calculated using the following formula:

# of V1 filters + # of V2 only filters + # of V1 filters updated using V2 features


When you click the link bringing you to user pages it brings you to a preview page split in two (see image).

The filters listed on the top include the filters available to V2 users.

If the user clicks the 2 on the < 1 2 3> selector of the V2 section:
it will bring him to a full spread V2 page. Unaltered FF1 filters will appear normal, Altered V1 filters (see the crappy photoshopped "ambient occlusion" on the Jet Lag filter) will also highlight yellow. The unaltered FF1 versions of these filters won't appear in the list (no repeats in this view)

If the user clicks the 2 on the < 1 2 3> selector of the V1 section:
It acts exactly like it does right now.

That pretty much sums it up for me.

All of the above is assuming V2 filters are held under the same licensing scenario as V1 filters, which I'm sure is clear by now, my opinion on the whole matter.

Thanks for the feedback!

Indeed, additional versions DO create a problem as far as the website navigation goes.

But there's an inherent problem when you have a library like FF has and the program does not include future compatibility.

As a V2 user, I want to keep up-to-date on any V1 submissions. I also don't want to deal with duplicate filters where the only difference is a V2 upgrade such as AO or special lighting on a preset.

As a V1 user, I don't want to have to weed through all of the V2 filters I can't use.


The segregated libraries, as proposed, solve this problem fairly cleanly. Further versions could use a different highlighting (A more subtle "highlight" such as a small icon would probably be more appropriate here)

As for the website layout/design (I want to keep focused on the V2 library topic but I'll mention some thoughts here) you could reduce the number of tabs (but keep the visibility of important features (as well as make others easier to find!) by doing drop-down menus. See this spreadsheet for a rough idea:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?ke...kTGc&hl=en

@KGtheway2B: I've been thinking about this, but I haven't really come up with a grand solution. I like your idea, but I think FF Inc. really want everyone to see those utterly cool new V2 filters, making the users drool and upgrade, they do need to get those dollars coming so they can keep inventing cool stuff.

@KGtheway2B I get what Egret means but I like the way your thinkng.

There needs to be some way to tell the difference between what filters you can open with FFv1 only at first glance specially if you choose not to upgrade to v2. The highlighting ffv1 filters sounds like a good idea, of even if they have FFv1: and FFv2: before filters names. Maybe that would work to? And if it's a resubmit of a ffv1 filter to use the lighting features in FFv2 creators state straight away in the about filter information making it noticable to users?

probably think of more ideas when awake.

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@KGtheway2B: I think FF Inc. really want everyone to see those utterly cool new V2 filters, making the users drool and upgrade, they do need to get those dollars coming so they can keep inventing cool stuff.

That's a good point, if entirely segregated, FF1 users browsing the FF1 library wouldn't be exposed to V2 filters. I'd just be really miffed though, if I only had V1 and I had to deal with V2 filters all intermixed. (Even if they had some sort of highlight or icon). Maybe the handy-dandy side bar (the one with all the quotes/testimonials) could have little V2 filter teasers: showing some V2EPs and a blurb saying: "look what you're missing out on!"

Kraellin: I think that a pro library would fit fine in the model I proposed, it would just be an additional category.

i like that last much better, KG. just hide the v2 filters from the v1 users. simple, clean, efficient.

As FF already has implemented "You need to upgrade to FF 2.0 to use this filter" inside FF, my best guess is that all filters will be visible, but at the same time, I would like to se more categories and better indexing, as many filters you stumble upon while searching for something, are real gold nuggets that you have totally missed as they didn't show up if your previous searches. I think the energy should be put into making the library an even better user experience.

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Indigo: I really hope that FFinc is classier than just mixing them together to make FF1 a poor experience in hopes that users upgrade to 2.0

Well... looks like I was wrong.

Has anyone submitted a V1 filter with V2 updates yet? I'm guessing that doing so would remove them being available from V1, which is really unfair imo.

I tried to get some thoughts on the matter to save FF from possible backlash from V1 users, but it seems like the ball is in their court now.

You guys don't disappoint! Good job on the implementation. The V2 updated FF1 filter method seems appropriate.