Zoltan Erdokovy
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FF2 crashes right after I click on the "try" button:
The interesting thing is that after installation, it run once. Then I hibernated my pc and now it always crashes. I tried XP SP3/vista compatibility mode and run as admin, but didn't help. EDIT: Reboot didn't help either. |
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Posted: October 18, 2009 1:03 pm | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Hmm... if I delete/rename the Filter Forge 2 app data directory, then it runs once.
EDIT: The crash happens if either the "Search index" or the "System" directories exist. |
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Posted: October 18, 2009 1:32 pm | ||||
The ZZ
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Did you use installer's "Import data from prev. version" feature?
Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: October 19, 2009 3:40 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Yes, I did. However after reinstalling without the import option, the crash still happens.
I also tried both the plain and the SSE2 exe, no change. |
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Posted: October 19, 2009 6:08 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Same crash with beta 2.
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Posted: December 18, 2009 11:45 am | ||||
The ZZ
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Try to delete (or temporary rename) "%APPDATA%/Filter Forge 2" folder and re-run the program.
Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 18, 2009 1:31 pm | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Only the "Search index" and the "System" dirs need to be deleted.
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Posted: December 18, 2009 1:39 pm | ||||
The ZZ
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Could you please post a full path name to your %APPDATA% foolder?
Ex. "C:\Documents and Settings\My User Name\Application Data" The problem may be related to the UNICODEd user name... Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 19, 2009 10:57 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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It's C:\Users\Zoltan\AppData\Roaming\Filter Forge 2 .
I removed the "read only" flag from this dir and all sub dirs, also made sure everyone has full control. Operating system: Windows 7 pro x64 Edition (6.1 build 7600) Processor info: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz Physical memory: 4095 MB |
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Posted: December 19, 2009 11:09 am | ||||
The ZZ
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OK. Please check if there's a file named "Filter Forge x86-SSE2.log" in your %TEMP% directory? If yes, please post it here.
Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 19, 2009 11:18 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Here you go:
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Posted: December 19, 2009 11:54 am | ||||
The ZZ
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Thanks for your report! It's much clearer now.
Could you please clear a content of your %TEMP% folder (a folder with your temporary files) and re-run the program? I presume there's a strange file name collision that prevents FF from working in normal way. Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 21, 2009 2:49 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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I deleted all files which weren't used by other programs, but the crash persists.
I checked other directories called "Temp", but they are all empty and not in use as far as I can tell. Because of other problems, I restored win7 to an earlier state: fresh install with all drivers and apps up and running. FForge beta was not installed in that backup, so I installed it and now I get the 30 day trial window before the crash. One file is definitely being changed in the temp dir: the log. Once I saw three or four .tmp files popping up for a split second just when the crash window appeared. I wasn't able to reproduce it so it might have been some other process. Still I checked what files I have there with the tmp extension: ~DF3D3E2BF2307603BB.TMP HTTB65C.tmp Both of them are used by an app and can not be deleted. Could their name interfere with FForge? |
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Posted: December 21, 2009 3:49 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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I also renamed the FForge v1 install dir, but that didn't change a thing either.
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Posted: December 21, 2009 4:29 am | ||||
The ZZ
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Please, download a new horfix: http://www.filterforge.com/download/F...0Setup.exe
It creates more detailed log which will help us to locate the problem. Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 23, 2009 7:59 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Uhm, isn't that the install of v1?
EDIT: I installed it but didn't change a thing: v1 runs as always, v2 crashes as always. |
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Posted: December 23, 2009 2:47 pm | ||||
The ZZ
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Yeah, it was actually the link to FF1.x instead of 2.x
![]() Please download this one http://www.filterforge.com/download/F...0Setup.exe install it, run, wait for a crash and post "Filter Forge x86-SSE2.log" from your %TEMP% folder here. Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 2:03 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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The log files (both sse2 and plain x86), the generated bugreport html and 3 "bitmap cache" tmp files appear in the temp directory so user permissions seem to be in order. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 2:41 am | ||||
The ZZ
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By the way, try to run the application as an administrator (via "Run As.." context menu).
Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 3:11 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Already doing that, tried Vista and XP compatibility mode too.
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Posted: December 24, 2009 3:24 am | ||||
The ZZ
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What's your path for %TEMP%?
(i.e. "C:\DOCUME~1\Username\LOCALS~1\Temp") Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 3:30 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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e:\temp\
Both "Temp" and "Tmp" environment variables are set to that path. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 4:30 am | ||||
The ZZ
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I'd suggest temporary solutions: a) create a new user with a "standard" %TEMP% folder location and run FF2.x as this user; or b) set FULL CONTROL permissions for your current %TEMP% folder.
Meanwhile we make a hotfix that fixes the issue. Thank you for you patience ![]() Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 8:54 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Full control is set for everyone on %TEMP%.
Thanks for your help and happy holidays! ![]() |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 9:07 am | ||||
The ZZ
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Have you already tried to create a new user with standard %TEMP% folder?
I'm sure it helps. By the way, I'd recommend you to set permissions for TEMP to FULL ACCESS only for one user - Zoltan, and to delete any permissions for that folder for EVERYONE, etc. UPD. Is your %TEMP% folder a regular folder on your local hard-drive or a RAM-drive or a SUBST-dir or something like this? Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 9:12 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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A new account with default settings can indeed run FForge 2.
The TEMP dir is a regular folder on an ordinary HDD. My system partition (c:) is on an SSD so I moved the temp dir to save space and IO wear. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 9:36 am | ||||
Kraellin
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how do you like the SSD zoltan? and how big is it?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 11:31 am | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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I love the combined speed of the SSD and Win 7.
![]() I have a 32 GB version (Super Talent UltraDrive ME FTM32GX25H), so it's just enough for the system. The hibernation- and pagefile, along with all the documents and programs are all on a spinning HDD. Still, Firefox starts faster than it takes me to decide which site I want to browse. ![]() |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 12:35 pm | ||||
The ZZ
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I'm still thinking of buying me a new SSD of higher capacity then is installed in my netbook with Win7
![]() Zoltan, BTW, can you post (or send me by private message) your "set" command output? I'm still wondering why FF2.x fails to start on your PC... I've found the procedure in our code where it happens, but I still can't understand why. It looks like your TMP (or TEMP) environment variable is set to wrong value or that folder has no enough permission. Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 1:33 pm | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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I sent you the SET command output.
The temp dir works for FForge v1 and all other apps and even FForge v2 if I delete the "System" and "Search index" before each run. After a successful v2 run, the log says the following:
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Posted: December 24, 2009 2:12 pm | ||||
Zoltan Erdokovy
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Bloody hell, you were right ZZ, the backslash at the end was the problem. I changed
e:\temp\ to e:\temp and now it works! Thanks for the help and happy holidays ZZ (and any other Filter Forge related person). ![]() |
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Posted: December 24, 2009 2:21 pm | ||||
The ZZ
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It's a right time to say "LOL"
![]() Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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Posted: December 25, 2009 2:52 am | ||||
ahimsa
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Mine won't open at all. It opens the buy or use as demo thing, but that's it.
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Posted: January 6, 2010 6:18 am | ||||
GMM
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Ahimsa, have you tried entering the beta key? |
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Posted: January 6, 2010 6:33 am | ||||
ahimsa
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I haven't gotten it yet. I tried to open it as a demo, it froze, I click the buy button and it wants money.
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Posted: January 6, 2010 6:47 am | ||||
GMM
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Please contact us via the Contact form to request a beta key.
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Posted: January 7, 2010 2:44 am | ||||
ahimsa
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I did that yesterday, no response yet.
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