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Rachel Duim
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On my Mac (MacBook Pro 2019) draft mode can be turned on, but not off. Here are 3 images to illustrate the issue. 1st in regular mode, 600x600

Math meets art meets psychedelia.
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Rachel Duim
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2nd image, draft mode turned on, everything ok

Math meets art meets psychedelia.
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Rachel Duim
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3rd image, draft mode turned off, but still in draft mode anyway. The original resolution can be recovered by doing the 2 following commands:
View / Preview Size / Reduced
View / Preview Size / Actual

Math meets art meets psychedelia.
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GMM
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If you want us to look into the issue please provide detailed steps to reproduce it.
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Rachel Duim
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It happens with any filter.
Run FF10 on MacBook Pro.
Pick a filter. Let render
Hit Draft Mode. Button turns blue. Let render
Hit Draft Mode. Button turns grey. Let render
Look at results and time to render. Still in Draft Mode.
Go to another filter. Still in Draft Mode.

I don't know how I can be any clearer.

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Rachel Duim
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SpaceRay
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I have finally got my FF 10 beta key and can test it with MacOS Catalina 10.15.5

I can help you to test it also and see what may be wrong and help the developers be able to reproduce it

I have seen that there is a new FF 10 update from 7 October 2020 that I have used to do the test.

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SpaceRay
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I will follow your list of steps you have put to reproduce it in the same way

Run Fresh FF 10
Pick Textures ---> Stones ---> Crysta filter with Preset 1

So this is Crysta without Draft Mode

Wait until it ends render

It takes 36.82 seconds

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SpaceRay
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So now you click on the Draft Mode button and it turns blue

Wait until it ends render

It takes 3.29 seconds

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SpaceRay
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So now you click again on the Draft Mode button and it turns grey

Wait until it ends render

It takes 8.10 seconds

So is not 36.82 seconds as it was without Draft Mode, although is not Draft mode either as it is 8.10 and not 3.29, so then there is something wrong or weird here

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SpaceRay
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So now the last step is to go to another different filter

Pick Textures ---> Stones ---> Layered Stone Preset 1

Wait until it ends render

It takes 8.50 seconds

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SpaceRay
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So now to really test if Layered Stone render time is wrong because it seems very similar to the last result from Crysta

I close FF 10 and restart it again fresh

When I restart it is choosen by default again the Layered Stone again

Wait until it ends render

It takes 50.88 seconds!!! and not 8.50

So it is supossed that this should not be right, as in the post above, the Draft Mode is switched off and the render time is 8.50 so, if now the draft mode is also off, should be the same, but this shown here is the real time that is RIGHT and NOT the time that is shown in the post above

So I think that this is what Rachel means, that after activating and then switch off, something wrong happens


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SpaceRay
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So now to test it again I activate the Draft Mode

Wait until it ends render

It takes 3.04 seconds

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SpaceRay
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So now you click again on the Draft Mode button and it turns grey

Wait until it ends render

It takes 8.40 seconds

So as it happened already with Crysta, is not 50.88 seconds as it was without Draft Mode, although is not Draft mode either as it is 8.40 and not 3.04, so then there is something wrong or weird here after you switch off draft mode

How is explained that the time render is so different before and after you use the draft mode button?

It should have around the same render time with a difference of 1 or 2 seconds and the render time does not go back to the same render time before using the draft mode button
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SpaceRay
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All the tests I am doing is with the 600x600 pixels

DRAFT MODE TIME IS HIGHER ?

There is more curious things as I when I was trying more on this I have seen something more weird as on all the above, when you activate the draft mode, the render time is reduced much, but when I use Pin Art by ThreeDee the render time with Draft mode is HIGHER!!!

Start FF 10 fresh
Open Pin Art and preset 1 and wait to finish

it takes 3 minutes 51 seconds

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SpaceRay
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So now you click on the Draft Mode button and it turns blue

Wait until it ends render

It takes it takes 4 minutes 57 seconds !!!!

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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And if the above is not weird enough if you simply switch off draft mode

Wait until it ends render

It takes it takes 2 minutes 25 seconds !!!!

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SpaceRay
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If now click on another filter the time is lower than it should be

I have done the last 3 posts above 2 times, and I got around the same result.

I hope this all helps to find what may be happening and what may be wrong with the Draft mode
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GMM
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Rachel, thank you for the detailed steps. It's not the entire draft mode that remains in effect but only the reduced resolution (cache, AO, and AA settings are switched back to normal but the resolution is not). Should be fixed in the next program update.
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