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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Hello, when testing this here I got another weird thing

I have seen that ungrouping is not always working right and sometimes after ungrouping you get different results than expected

I have already tested this with 6 different filters and always happens the same

For example take the great and wonderful CUT IT OUT !!! by Carl

GROUPING WITH IMAGE COMPONENT AND UNGROUP IT

1 - Open the filter in FF 4.03
2 - then go to filter editor and group all the components except the image input component
3 - then after grouping ,do not do nothing else and click on ungroup
4 - wow, magically the image component is left out and replaced by a color control smile:?: , why is it replaced the main external image by a color control ?

GROUPING WITH IMAGE COMPONENT AND UNGROUP IT WITHOUT CONTROL COMPONENTS

And it can get even worse than the one above

1 - Open the filter in FF 4.03
2 - then go to filter editor and group all the components except the image input component AND leave out any control component
3 - then after grouping ,do not do nothing else and click on ungroup
4 - wow, magically the image component is left out and replaced by a color control AND also all the control component that you have left out of the group are really now left out and disconnected and replaced by new ones and so you have duplicates ones smile:?:

GROUPING WITH IMAGE COMPONENT INSIDE GROUP AND UNGROUP IT WITHOUT CONTROL COMPONENTS

More weird is that IF you decide to include the Image component inside the group (the two above does not include it) it is not magically replaced by a color control as it happens in the above examples above

1 - Open the filter in FF 4.03
2 - then go to filter editor and group all the components INCLUDING the image input component AND leave out any control component
3 - then after grouping ,do not do nothing else and click on ungroup
4 - when ungrouping all the control component that you have left out of the group are really left out and disconnected and replaced by new ones and so you have duplicates ones smile:?:

WHEN GROUPING ALL DOES NOT HAPPEN ANY OF THE ABOVE

More mistery added, if you select everything and click on group and then ungroup it, nothing weird happens and all is right

1 - Open the filter in FF 4.03
2 - then go to filter editor and group ALL the components
3 - then after grouping ,do not do nothing else and click on ungroup
4 - when ungrouping all the components are exactly the same as they was before grouping, nothing wrong or weird
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

Posts: 12299
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I have tested that this happens with old and new versions of the external image component and with old and new filters, and also with old or new control components, and always happens in the same way

This has been tested with the FF 4.03 with the latest hotfix added
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

Posts: 12299
Filters: 35
anyone else have tried this and have reproduced it too?

This is still happening in the latest version available.
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GMM
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SpaceRay, you should instead press Ctrl+Z (or select Edit > Undo) if you want to revert the filter to its original state.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

Posts: 12299
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GMM

SpaceRay, you should instead press Ctrl+Z (or select Edit > Undo) if you want to revert the filter to its original state.


Sorry that I do not understand what you mean.

Why when ungouping a group that has a external image components happens this?

why is it replaced the main external image by a color control ? smile:?:

why magically the image component is left out and replaced by a color control smile:?:

Perhaps I am missing something and this is how it works, but I do not see that this is good.

Maybe the possible explanation of this could be found

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Filter Forge Beta Page Groups

To ungroup, simply select the group and hit the Ungroup button on the toolbar. However, be aware that this may not bring the filter tree into exactly same state as it was before grouping.

For example, grouping may automatically create control components inside the group to serve as inputs, and when you ungroup the group, these components will appear despite the fact you haven't created them manually before grouping.

Groups are not meant as a GUI tool for quickly hiding and unhiding unwanted parts of the component tree – instead, it is a way of creating custom components, so use them wisely and strategically.


So I think that maybe, the external image component is replaced by the color control when grouping to be able to make the needed input outside of the group
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