Various Beta 3.0 Bugs

Here are a some FF3 Bugs i have found so far, i will add more if i find any also -

When you first start FF3 and click "Filter Updates" it seems to need to update the structure which takes a long time. Since i only downloaded V3 today it seemed a bit odd that the new structure is not built into the new installer.

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Something that is missing now is with the notice when you start FF and there is a texture using the lifesaver image. It needs to be updated to say you can switch it but currently it still has the same text from older versions.

Also there is a sort of bug with that notice in that even if you click on the light yellow bit then it loads the Open Image dialog, since there is roll-over links though you would think that those should trigger it rather than just clicking anywhere on the popup notice.

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Another error is that on all the exe files in the \Filter Forge 3\Bin folder say -

2006-2010 Filter Forge, Inc. All rights reserved.

for the Properties > Version tab details and when you run the command line apps it also says 2010, you should probably change that to 2011 now.

Ok now i see how to load multiple images, if anyone else has not figured it out you do it with the Color Control node by setting External Image to Allowed and loading a image. This does not work with filters that already have colors connected as you don't see the option though, it seems to re-name them Color 2.009 here so i guess it now counts the old ones as discontinued nodes.

The fact the regular Image node shows no multiple image options is a bit confusing though, i think it would be good to add something similar to that also. The Manual preview seems nowhere though, unless i am missing something it seems not to have made it to V3 for some reason.

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Also not sure if this counts as a bug/point but a suggestion would be to add a "Clear List" option to the Recent Images list.

A option to not use it would be good for the main options also if for some reason you don't want it to keep the history saved.

I can't modify my above post for some reason but i just noticed the main Help > About text also says 2006-2010 which should be changed to 2011 also.

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James, the help isn't finalized yet, and the help links for new features don't work.

I was thinking this could reason as i guess some things might change with later releases, thanks for the info.

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If you click the "Show Original" tick box above the preview image and then go in to the "Filter Editor" and then click "Cancel" to exit it again then it will un-tick that setting and re-render the image. If you don't save any changes then a re-render is probably not needed.

Ok sure, i thought that was a bug but i guess it can also be seen as a GUI suggestion so if i find more things like that i will post in that forum instead from now on.

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Kraellin wrote: you cant mouseover the various sliders and then use the scroll wheel

Please check you have the correct setting in Tools > Interface > Mouse wheel in scrollboxes.

New Bug.

Nearly complete loss of filters.

I installed with the option to transfer all of my filters. Everything worked fine. I added the license key. Everything worked fine. I attempted to install a new filter this morning with 3.0 open. I finally canceled the "getting list of filters" after 5 minutes. I tried one more time, then closed the program. When I reopened it I am left with Favorites, Search and My Filters. There are some random filters in My Filters but not very many.

I have found more bugs -

First is a fairly big bug in my opinion, if you use Gaussian blur after a Color node with a imported image it will create a transparent edge/frame. You can see this well if you zoom in on the preview and this happens even if the imported image is seamless.

If you enable the Seamless Tiling override option that does not fix it either so this definitely seems like a bug, i hope it can be fixed as i use the blur node a lot.

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There is also a visual glitch if you have loaded custom images and you are on the main preview page editing the filter settings. When you move the Variation slider across the images will flicker.

I keep getting a version of this message

Carl, can you reproduce the issue? If yes, please include the step-by-step instruction.

Well I can send you one of the filter [ in development ] that triggers the response ......... so I thought I'd just tidy it up a little before sending it to you, attempt to save filter resulted in this message followed by an error report that was submitted through the bug report.
Thanks jitspoe, I've left the default setting of 60% ram

I found a fairly big bug with Lua based filters, for example if you try this filter from the forum called Pipes C1.ffxml -

http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...8&TID=8010

It does not correctly display the preset previews. While the first preview is visible for the second image the preview seems like a solid black color but when you actually view/render it you can see the lines are actually much thicker than the first image.

The same is true for other Lua code based filters such as Tech Noise Scrippet -

http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...&PAGEN_1=2

The first preview clearly shows the largest square with a bevel that fades to the center but when you view/render it the bevel is only for the edge part. So this definitely seems like there is bugs correctly displaying the previews from Lua coded filters.

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James wrote: I found a fairly big bug with Lua based filters, for example if you try this filter from the forum called Pipes C1.ffxml - It does not correctly display the preset previews.

Confirmed and scored.

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James wrote: I found a fairly big bug with Lua based filters, for example if you try this filter from the forum called Pipes C1.ffxml

I can't seem to locate any filter with that name that contains lua scripts?

New Bugs/GUI Errors -

If you enable External Images for a Color Control in the Frame Editor i noticed if you edit the name it will make the main preview, the smaller preview under it and the actual Color Control nodes previews glitch every letter/character you type in.

This seems to be a bug since the name should have nothing to do with the result.

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Another bug is if you use a built in preview image then click the smaller preview on the Color Control nodes options and bring up the Image Placement dialog if you then quickly toggle the Show Original tick box you will see it glitch.

It will have scroll bars appearing quickly. For both the ticked and un-ticked states even though the size will change no scroll bars will show however unless you use the mouse wheel to scroll in a bit, i am fairly sure this is some sort of graphical glitch.

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If you go into the Filter Editor and simply select a node but not move or change it then press cancel to exit the editor it asks you if you want to save changes. No changes would have been made however, i guess highlighting a node makes FF think somethings been re-positioned.

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I noticed if there are some imported images missing it will show a error about this but there is not much information about the original path/folder locations which would make it much simpler to fix the problem if a folder has moved.

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I am not sure if this is some feature or a shortcut error but if you click in the main preview and then press the Enter key it opens a save image dialog. The save options shortcut is listed as Ctrl+S in the menu though but i am guessing this could be some slightly quicker way to do it?

So far i have noticed -

No content

Wrong thickness for polygons/lines/gaps

Incorrect placement/offset

Incorrect bevel and gradients

Then rotation and other things also as it seems like a general preview bug. Hopefully this will be fixed soon with a new beta because otherwise you have to render things full size to see the actual results.

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Carl wrote: Thumbnails show wrong orintation of rotated objects

Carl, would you please attach or send the filter.

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James wrote: If you enable External Images for a Color Control in the Frame Editor i noticed if you edit the name it will make the main preview, the smaller preview under it and the actual Color Control nodes previews glitch every letter/character you type in.

Thank you. The bug has been confirmed and scored.

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James wrote: If you have a locked preview and a Lua Script node where you have a slider input setup like - a = get_slider_input(A_MOD) Even if it's currently doing nothing and not connected anywhere in the actual code when you move the slider to adjust it's value it will re-draw the preview.

Confirmed and scored.

Again, I'd appreciate if you post feature requests (like remembering the scrollbar position) in the appropriate forum.

I noticed FF can load PNG images that have been saved in RGB, greyscale and Indexed mode. With Indexed colors mode however i found if you reduce the palette to be Web-optimized (i did this with gimp image editor) then FF cannot load them.

Since FF loads PNG images i am guessing this would be a bug as i would have expected it to be able to load images in this mode also but it does not seem to be able to.

I recently downloaded some filters which say they are by voldemort (on FF site) but in the list (in FF V3 beta 2) it displays the author as root instead.

I thought this was worth reporting because if anyone wants to give a author credit for using filters it makes things confusing if it's not showing the correct information.

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GMM wrote:A known issue, Image loader flickering has already been reported.

Yeah, I think i reported it before once but for another dialog and i noticed it happening with the new control also so i figured i should report just in case.

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GMM wrote:You can simply zoom out to thee the entire handle?

Well if you zoom out it can be lost but i doubt this would happen much as there is a lot of room. Maybe you could simply make a right click option to reset the handles, this would fix that and is also quite useful. You could delete a point and add it again i guess but that is not as nice a solution in my opinion.

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GMM wrote:Please provide the filter IDs so that we can check it out.

Sure, here is some of them -

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9788.html
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9767.html
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9757.html

I have filters which show correctly as by 'voldemort' also in my list but the recent filters show as 'root' though.

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James wrote: Sure, here is some of them - http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9788.html http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9767.html http://www.filterforge.com/filters/9757.html I have filters which show correctly as by 'voldemort' also in my list but the recent filters show as 'root' though.

This looks like a combination of a user error and a library server issue. If a filter author doesn't specify their author name in the Filter info dialog explicitly FF takes their system logon name instead. I guess voldemort's username is 'root'. This discrepancy in the display names doesn't affect correct filter usage tracking. We'll fix the discrepancy some day.