Will FF could support multi layers ( as photoshop)

Hello, i wonders, if in FF4 it will be possible to work with multiple layers, multiple layers , multiple filters applied and render just after ?

For the moment the only way to do that ( apply multiples filters on the same artworks , photo , or poster, is for me to : Open photoshop, set my size of canvas, and dpi , run FF , render in photoshop from FF, Wait Wait Waaaaiiiittttt ( usually i render 150x50 centimeters for 100 DPI documents) and it take me 10 to 14 hours following the filters, or the presets. AND if i need to applied one more filter or preset on these, and it takes the same time...

So if i could make my final render directly with layers in FF and render in Photoshop even if it's long it will be the heaven for me.

What do you think of this feature ?

What do you think about all that ?


Thanks a lot !!

Best Regards.

No, but your feature idea seems interesting

I need to use multiple filters on the same images in FF, and after click apply to render the final result in Photoshop.

In FF a layer system will be very interesting to use, like the layer system in photoshop.




Thanks a lot !!

Best Regards

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Morgantao Do you mean something like a batch renderer that would render one filter after another, on the same image?

If what he wants is what I have explained in the above post here, the batch render would work only half way, because you would not know HOW will look the result if you apply 3 different filters to an image until you have rendered all the 3 filter results and if you do not like it you have to do it all everything again.

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Morgantao have been requested many times before, and we all cross our fingers that it will be implemented sometime soon

GMM have confirmed that there will not be any change in the FF 4.0 batch render so we will have to wait until at least 2014 for FF 5.0, so regretably, it will not be soon

I think that the problem to implement this in Filter Forge is the WAY that it already works and that it always and every time NEEDS to render any image even for preview purpose, so asking to Filter Forge to do stacking WITHOUT rendering the final version and use the result to be able to apply the second filter would not be possible as FF is now and should be changed in some way.

So I think that this would not be a possible to make it, or only possible if you make it ONLY with the 600x600 reduced preview where the preview can be made much faster than the real size render.

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Skybase It will add to render times

I think that the render times would be the same, what would rise and be higher is the FINAL render if you decide to have 2 or 3 (or more) filter applied as the render time will be the sum of the filters render times. (time to render filter 1 + render time of filter 2 + ....) BUT all at one time and not render each one separately, so you can leave it rendering and go to do something else and then later come back and would be finished

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Skybase So you'd be waiting for one filter to finish rendering, then another... and another... until you're done with the entire set of filters.

Sorry that I do not see or understand where is the problem with this, I mean that as I have already said above, if you could sum the render times of all the filters into ONE ONLY render, you can leave it rendering and go away and do not have to keep waiting

Unless you mean that you have wait for one filter to render in the middle of the process of stacking the filters, and so this way would be wrong, because if the stacking would be made right, you do NOT have to wait until the previous filter is finished rendering because then it would be like batch rendering and not like stacking.

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Skybase Are you saying like... 1 filter = multiple layered outputs?

Sorry I am explaining badly , I have not said that 1 filter would give multiple layered outputs

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Skybase Sounds like a batch render thing honestly.

STACKING

Step 1 - Have the original source image

Step 2 - Apply a FF filter to this image (do not render the final result just a reduced preview)

Step 3 - Apply a second filter over the result of the first filter AND be able to customize the result of this second filter according to the result of the first filter so both looks right and well (do not render the final result just a preview)

Step 4 - If needed apply a third filter in the same way as the second in point 3, being able to modify the settings of this filter over the previous 2 filters so it looks right

Step 5 - When satisfied and finished you would RENDER all the 3 filters at ONE time and get the final result at the final real resolution size. Obviously the render time will be the time taken to render all the 3 filters, so it will be higher BUT you can leave it working and go way to do something else or keep working on another different thing.

BATCH RENDER

Step 1 - Have the original source image

Step 2 - Configure the Batch render by selecting the 3 filters that you want to apply to the same image one after the other.

Step 3 - Run the Batch render

Step 4 - You will NOT be able to modify or customize any of the settings between filter 2 and filter 3, and would not be able to have a preview and will only have to wait until the end of the result of applying all 3 filters to the image so you can see if you like it or not

Step 5 - If you do not like the result of the 3 filters mix you have to do it again BUT you will not know HOW to modify it as you do not know what is wrong and which one of the 3 filters must be modified to get the right result.