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EAdams

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I just discovered Smart Photo Editor by Anthropics. It is similar to FF in that there is a node-based effects editor for creating graphic effects and there is a huge library of photographic effects created by the community to suit almost any need.

The editor is not as comprehensive as the FF editor, so I don't see it as a replacement for FF, however it is inexpensive and great to use to post-edit any FF renderings or just to use to quickly enhance any images. It is much quicker to use than FF, and you can stack effects, which you can't do in FF. There is a trial version, and it is worth looking at.
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Ramlyn
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Interesting.
I tried it before, but now I saw that they improved and they added more interesting effects.
It still misses the wider range of components of FF, but it can be useful.
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EAdams

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Yes it is very useful for post-processing images. What I like best is the fact that you can stack effects on a single image (even using the standalone version) and the ease in discovering what effects look good on a particular image. You can display 12 effect previews at the same time (see screenshot), which is a real time-saver.

With FF, I have to load each filter separately, and then view all the presets or fiddle with the settings to see what looks good on my image. This is time-consuming, especially since some filters (even the previews) take a long time to render. And if I am using the standalone version, I have to save each rendering as a separate file and open the new file in order to apply an additional filter.

Currently, the Smart Photo Editor is available for only €23.95 (standalone version).

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Skybase
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Kinda don't want to downplay this but here are a couple pointers I should mention:

Hmmm this effects library SEEMS legit for just your effects, but some of these seem to use photo resources. For example, the "effect" stars 5 there on your effect browser seems to be a blatant upload of either the author's original work or somebody else's work. We got no idea if that's copyrighted or not.

So I grabbed a trial copy of the program just to see what's going on here and it seems like a bunch of effects heavily rely on photographs/pictures. Now ok, unlike FilterForge where EVERYTHING is generated internally in the program, this program makes use of user submitted photographs to produce the effect. It's a bit scary thinking any user can submit anything they see fit... simply because of copyright issues. But ok, I dug a bit because this got me interested.

Visiting the forums a bit the admin had this to say about the usage of photos in their effects: "The images users submit must have no license restrictions in order for them to submit it. When users are not using their own pictures they must get them fr om sites wh ere the pictures are free for any use."

Which worries me. You don't have a 100% honest crowd on the internet. There's no way of verifying that the images used are 100% copyright free. There's no guarantee about anything. Which means the majority of what's uploaded as a usable effect is somewhat "sketchy" for any form of usage unless you decide never to share your work. Unless the developers can clarify that, and guarantee user safety it'll be a tough program to use for any creative work.

So be cautious. You never know what you're gonna run into. The developer's approach heavily rests with what the community uploads which means you're paying for the access to what the community makes. Therefore, given the questionable copyright issue here, it might not be worth the money as it seems.
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EAdams

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Skybase: "a bunch of effects heavily rely on photographs/pictures. Now ok, unlike FilterForge where EVERYTHING is generated internally in the program, this program makes use of user submitted photographs to produce the effect...There's no way of verifying that the images used are 100% copyright free. "


It is as you say and you have to be careful about using effects provided by the community which have embedded images. (I have the suspicion that the most prolific "community" contributors are actually company employees who create the embedded images for the purpose of being used with the program, but I have no proof of this.)

Anyone wary of copyright infringement who wants to use an effect with an embedded image need only to go into the effect editor and replace the embedded image with one of their own.

The ability to embed external images is actually a great feature that has been discussed by filter authors as a feature request for FF. It is my understanding that the copyright issue that you raise is a reason why FF does not have this feature.
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Skybase
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So technically, given the nature of this software, the community effects library cannot and never have a single case of copyright infringement for this to work smoothly. You surely can replace the effect with your own image, but I'm talking more about quality control of the contents that you paid for. You basically can't have images with questionable backgrounds slipping through what already seems to be loose security. Kinda troubling honestly because some of these effects are just blends between two images with nothing super special happening. smile;)

Oh well... software... legal trouble... difficult. smile:( Nothing in the world is perfect.
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