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SpaceRay
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It has been released a new software that allows you to use any of the more than 750.000 Android Apps WITHOUT having to have an Android device (either tablet or phone) and you can use them with the computer you already have with Windows and MacOS !!! It is like an Android emulator for desktop computers

It is called Bluestacks and you can download and see more information from their http://www.bluestacks.com/ website

AND IS FREE TO DOWNLOAD !!!

The only version that is fully finished is the one for the Windows 8, but there is Beta version for others Windows and for MacOS

and I think that this really works well and can be trusted as now Many of the most important computer companies have reached an agreement to distribute this software with their own computers preloaded from factory

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The move comes on the heels of key distribution agreements with several companies in the PC ecosystem, including AMD, Asus, MSI, and most recently, Lenovo, and also has been in talks with HP and Dell. The various deals will see BlueStacks’ software preloaded onto over 100 million PCs in 2013, BlueStacks previously announced.

With a Windows 8 optimized App Player and over 5 million downloads across both Mac and PC platforms under its belt, BlueStacks is showing no signs of losing its momentum


And here is also some news about this full release for Windows 8

Techcrunch news about Bluestacks

IGN news about Bluestacks

What we surely will not see is an IOS Apple emulator for Windows or even Mac, as Apple surely will not authorize it becuase they will not want to loose all the iPhone and iPad market smile:D

The same thing that they have already not authorized to sell a modified version of MacOS to be used on PC´s and is only possible to use on Apple computers when they have been asked some time ago.
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CFandM
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Well its not anything new but thanks for the post... smile:)
THere is also talk of them in violation of certain Licenses but that I won't talk about nor get into detail here....

NOT ANYTHING NEW
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Skybase
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Yeah... I had similar thoughts. It seems like this would have some license violations somewhere. The app itself is legal, it's the "using" part that gets really sketchy. I really like the idea though. I'd give it a nice whirl and test out stuff.

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What we surely will not see is an IOS Apple emulator for Windows or even Mac, as Apple surely will not authorize it becuase they will not want to loose all the iPhone and iPad market


I doubt they'll lose the market. But what you're saying is basically like how xna or visual studio is a microsoft specific platform. The point is to get people on using a specific system to develop, that's how you grow incentives in the market. Hence as much as Apple doesn't have iOS SDK for Windows, Windows doesn't have their mobile SDK for OSX. I also feel Apple's cautious not to mess around with rights, developer integrity in regard to where their apps go, and who uses them and how, so this isn't exactly about how companies are being restrictive. And this goes vice versa. Some companies might be more reluctant to accept, but that's a marketing strategy.

I think Bluestacks is doing something quite cool, but I can also see it being also a source of slight trouble for those making apps. The point is, it's another separate platform to consider. People should be careful that these apps aren't exactly running on their intended platform. So if something happens unexpectedly, then I doubt developers or Bluestacks can be held responsible.

To be fair, it's a very complex story over all. Licenses, who gets what, rights... it's always the legal gray zone because anybody can argue anything.

My friends in app development can tell you all sorts of stories about using either platform. But their point ends pretty much the same: choose your sword (or swords) and your adventure begins there.
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CFandM
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It is this part that I was wondering about...qemu
Although I have seen some people posting about emailing the company and requesting the changes to the source...Which the company in turn did send out that on CD.
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Skybase
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Pretty sketchy. heh.
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CFandM
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Yep...It just reminds me to much of the CherryOS Days
Although there is not an outcry as much as that was.. smile;) smile:)
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SpaceRay
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I have to say that in the title I have put "use any of the 750.000 android apps", well this really is not really true, as you will only be able to use all those apps that are not depending on some hardware feature of the android device, I mean that obviously you will not be able to use any Camera app as the PC does not have any camera included smile:D and also the apps that depend on MOVING or shaking the android device would not work either, as moving or shaking the monitor will not give the same result smile;) smile:D or any other app that is specifically made for a phone or tablet that is useless in a desktop computer without touch screen.

My main reason to put this thread here, is that there are many artistic android apps that could perhaps be used and then the result of that could be used with Filter Forge to make it better or as source image for filters.

Or also the other way, use some filter forge source image results to be used in artistic android apps

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CFandM

Well its not anything new but thanks for the post... smile:)



Well, sorry if this has been known before in 2011, but I have already been searching last year for an android emulator and did not find any, although I found something like an iPad emulator smile;) smile:D although it does not work (or at least I have not been able to make it work)

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THere is also talk of them in violation of certain Licenses but that I won't talk about nor get into detail here....


I have thought the same that this could be a problem for app licenses and for Google, but it seems that Google agree with this and is not a problem although I also think that it may be a problem for app licenses

BUT I decided finally to put this thread and believe in this software that is legal because of the news that over 100 million PCs will have this Bluestack software preinstalled and already loaded and available in the most known PC brands companies.

If you are an important and big company would you install in your own manufactured PC a software that would be ilegal or have some possible problem in the future? Well, I think not, and even more considering that are many companies and not just one or two. Would they risk having their name involved in license violations or legal problems? Of course that I do not know about this, but I think not.

I refer to this below

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The move comes on the heels of key distribution agreements with several companies in the PC ecosystem, including AMD, Asus, MSI, and most recently, Lenovo, and also has been in talks with HP and Dell. The various deals will see BlueStacks’ software preloaded onto over 100 million PCs in 2013, BlueStacks previously announced.

With a Windows 8 optimized App Player and over 5 million downloads across both Mac and PC platforms under its belt, BlueStacks is showing no signs of losing its momentum
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SpaceRay
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After the answer to CFandM and also the clarification not at the beginning of the post above this one I answer to Skybase. Please read this post above first.

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I doubt they'll lose the market. But what you're saying is basically like how xna or visual studio is a microsoft specific platform. The point is to get people on using a specific system to develop, that's how you grow incentives in the market. Hence as much as Apple doesn't have iOS SDK for Windows, Windows doesn't have their mobile SDK for OSX.


Well they would loose some possible market if the IOS would be available in desktop computers OR it could be available in PC laptops and other portable devices.

There is already available very good, stable and reliable software for MacOS to be used as Windows emulator, or to install a real Windows in the Apple computer and is legal and for sell in shops. There is not any MacOS emulator for Windows at least legally for sell in any software shop.

Is true that this does not happen at all with Windows mobile.

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People should be careful that these apps aren't exactly running on their intended platform. So if something happens unexpectedly, then I doubt developers or Bluestacks can be held responsible.


Of course that you can´t claim any app support or report any problem to the apps developer if you are NOT using the real device it was made for, you do not have any right to complain or make responsible any person as you are not using the real thing. So it´s up to you to use the android emulator as it is, and do not complain about problems it may have.

But as you say very well, all this is very complex and tangled and not easy to see the limits and rights.
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SpaceRay wrote...There is already available very good, stable and reliable software for MacOS to be used as Windows emulator, or to install a real Windows in the Apple computer and is legal and for sell in shops. There is not any MacOS emulator for Windows at least legally for sell in any software shop.


Well I won't go into much debate on this issue but there are plenty of emulators for Windows to install all different versions of Apple OSes....You can even run OSX on a PC just like you can run Windows on an Apple Product......The reasons you won't see some of these for sale in stores is they are created as free Open Sourced apps and Blue Stacks is using one of those free Open Sourced apps.......
Read the CherryOS story......

Just the same as this first one is using on the first link below.....
YouWave
Android on Windows
Android on Windows More

Almost forgot to include this one and its under development as well..
AndroidX86

This with all the links above you can see something just the same as bluestacks is doing.....The first link the "Youwave" is using another free and Open Sourced application called
VirtualBox
Then on that emulator "Youwave" is running the AndroidX86......

(RANT ON)
So with all this info you can see that Bluestacks is nothing really new its just got prettier graphics and UI...But "no offense" to anyone but the consumer never peeks under the graphics to see whats running...They just know it runs... smile;) smile:)
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