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StevieJ
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What's that??? Something in "Second Life"??? ![]() Steve
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Posted: October 23, 2008 10:23 am | ||||||||||
Beliria
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Yeps, not sure how to go about it with blender but will try. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Sculpted_Prims Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 23, 2008 1:11 pm | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Ah, cg modeling.....definitely can do that in TS and Blender.....TS being alot easier than Blender to learn......which is the biggest gripe I've found about Blender.....help is not very good.....have to go to You-Tube where there are alot of good video tutorials available from users.....
Steve
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Posted: October 23, 2008 3:20 pm | ||||||||||
Beliria
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thing is Blender is supported for sculpt maps unlike TS, mind wiki SL has a list of tutorials for Blender with the software info
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Sculp...de#Blender Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 23, 2008 4:44 pm | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Nice.....that will come in handy..... ![]() Cheekus Erectus??? ![]() Steve
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Posted: October 23, 2008 4:52 pm | ||||||||||
ronviers
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I used to feel the same way but I have since realized that to do a single high quality project you need people that specialize. Take the scene from King Kong were he throws a tantrum. How long would it take you to create the King Kong model? Then it has to be rigged and deformations applied. How long would that process take? How long do you think it would take you to animate his 3 minute rampage? The scene involves an environment with practical effects as well as live footage of a real human. There are backgrounds that have to be modeled, painted or otherwise generated. There are camera movements, lens selection, depth of field and focus issues. All of these visual elements then have to be composited together. And don't forget all that goes into the sounds and score. If we all concentrate on learning the same things at the same time we will not be able to work together on a single project. The only way for that to work is for each of us to pick an area and get good at it while collaborating on the larger vision. If you were to specialize in rendering, Carl in displacement and textures, Beliria in environments and matte painting and Nidi in Python and setup and then we could get someone to help with animation, compositing, dynamics and sound – we might have a small chance of completing a project. So I think we should all get started. ![]() I even forgot to mention texturing, rendering and dynamics used for the King Kong scene ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: October 23, 2008 6:58 pm | ||||||||||
Carl
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It's the only way to keep him in line Nidi and you can see he enjoys it ![]()
that is a shame TS doesn't, Blender does allow import of Terragen ![]() |
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Posted: October 24, 2008 3:03 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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it is an interesting point ![]() |
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Posted: October 24, 2008 3:04 am | ||||||||||
Beliria
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I just need to scrape some time together to figure blender out.. think might do that once I get my store in SL sorted, kinda neglected them the past 7 weeks doing the Xenodream's class.. And yep Nidi, Steve thrives on people bashing him around ![]() ![]() Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 24, 2008 10:05 am | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Ron, you're certainly right about dividing the labor in a project of that magnitude. I was kinda thinking of starting out on a smaller scale.....like just developing a themed set/group of characters together.....then see if we could sell them. Maybe after we got some good ones, it could be progressed into animation. What do you think???
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Excusy?!? ![]() Steve
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Posted: October 24, 2008 10:31 am | ||||||||||
Beliria
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Your welcome Steve ![]() Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 24, 2008 10:59 am | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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My pleasure.....
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Posted: October 24, 2008 11:37 am | ||||||||||
Beliria
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um.. looking at that SL wiki list for what 3d software can be 'easily' turned in to sculpties might take me a while to find software that I can figure out lol! as to OBJ can't seem to find the right one to convert them, tried to open the xeno ones in Blender and it freaked out. Although have managed to open the obj's in Bryce..
Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 24, 2008 12:04 pm | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Is that like a 3D bmp map format used by SL and Blender??? Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: October 24, 2008 1:27 pm | ||||||||||
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Why thank you so much Ron for the job offer in your new company ![]() ![]()
Ohhh...naughty Steve... |
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Posted: October 24, 2008 5:08 pm | ||||||||||
ronviers
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Magnitude!? It was only three minutes. ![]()
In the short term, everything is clear. I need a body of work. For now, producing something, anything, has my complete attention. But on down the road things get a little more schizophrenic. I have imagined a world in my head but there is no story in it. It is populated only by facts and ideas. It is a good place from which to pull characters for modeling but it also draws a bright line under my inability to tell a story of my own. I am better suited and would genuinely enjoy making a small but significant contribution to someone else's vision.
Me too. ![]()
If you pick a small part of the 3d pipeline and do not allow yourself to become distracted by all the cool things done in other areas it will not take long to get very average. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: October 24, 2008 9:35 pm | ||||||||||
ronviers
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I have started putting together my election night playlists. So far for my I have.
While Obama is trailing: ![]() Ænema – Tool What God Wants, Pt. 1/2 – Waters It Can't Happen Here – Zappa get a tv dinner and cook it up Do-Wacka-Do – Roger Miller Carnival – Natalie Merchant What Have They Done to My Song, Ma – Melanie Lightning Crashes – Live Pretty Good – John Prine Only Happy When It Rains - Garbage Get Over It – Eagles Tomorrow, Wendy – Concrete Blonde While Obama is leading: ![]() Don't it Make Ya Wanna Dance - Bonnie Raitt New Train – John Prine First We Take Manhattan - Jennifer Warnes Radioactive – The Firm Move It on Over – George Thorogood move over old dog Anticipation – Carly Simon Till It Shines – Bob Seger Hand in My Pocket – Alanis Morissette These Are Days – 10,000 Maniacs Yes We Can – will.i.am @ronviers |
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Posted: October 25, 2008 6:04 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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I don't know if this will help [ I haven't checked all 470 odd file formats to see if yours is one ] and you may have to change it from one format to another - this is a handy program for general purposes [ yes it's free LOL ] xnveiw
yes he is a problem ![]()
some intersting choices there ![]() |
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Posted: October 25, 2008 9:31 am | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Well, it would take some serious skill just to get those three minutes, right??? ![]() ![]()
If you want, post up or send me an email of what you have envisioned so far.....and maybe I can help you with some storylines.....believe it or not, I'm pretty creative that way..... ![]()
Don't listen to them.....they're always ganging up and picking on me.....when I've always been nothing but kind and considerate to them..... ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: October 25, 2008 11:31 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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That's no joke. ![]()
Thanks. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: October 25, 2008 1:37 pm | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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That's the key.....getting self-satisfaction a sense of accomplishment out of it..... ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: October 25, 2008 2:15 pm | ||||||||||
Carl
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One of the thing that irrates me in a lot of games is lack of a real story line or worse still claiming to have a clever story line where when you play it the story is irrelevant to advancing through the game
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:20 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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mmmmmmmm ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:27 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:30 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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and money ![]()
What do you mean? Usually the story is just, take that hill or win the race. Even with a good RPG the story is, fight your way to the boss monster and defeat it. @ronviers |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:42 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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thats exactly what i mean but also games pretend to have a story but it actual doesn't effect the game play at all ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:44 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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They have a long way to go. I have heard game makers claim that they are making art but IMO they haven't earned it yet. A game company is sixteen dipshits in cubicles. The 3 minute scene in King Kong took hundreds of people months of work. @ronviers |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:46 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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it always amazes me the limit of imagination - example an alien world and it looks like Arizona in bright colours
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:51 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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Posted: October 26, 2008 12:55 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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I like the story in the movie 'Groundhog Day'. The character learns the difference between getting what he wants and earning what he gets. Game designers need to watch that movie.
I also like a good revenge story. @ronviers |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:01 am | ||||||||||
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well... that's an additional measure for accomplishment...
In general, I like adventure games, that some of them have great storylines (see The Longest Journey or Myst) but there are action games also with good storylines, like Beyond the good and evil...
me too... but also is a matter of demand I think... |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:10 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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And don't forget the most important measure of all - groupies. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:16 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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haven't played that one, have to have a look at it, Myst stuff was good but my furry little brain would get frustrated - Morrowwind series I quite enjoyed - I agree adventure - rpg's and fps that have a story not just slaughtering
Ron Ron Ron ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:35 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:42 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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Interesting. Do I see some 'Welcome to the Machine' in there? I look forward to seeing where you take it.
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Posted: October 26, 2008 1:50 am | ||||||||||
Beliria
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I love rpg games but I agree to the lack of story a lot of the online style seem to be based on kill the creatures or kill each other. I don't mind killing the critters, as to killing each other not to keen on that.
lol
cool, reminds me I wanted to have a bash at making a Mummy like linen texture/filter. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: October 26, 2008 5:03 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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Hey that's a good idea ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 5:51 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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maybe "Welcome to the washing machine" ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 5:52 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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Somewhere Ron and Nidi were talking about developing the right side of there brains and I thought this was interesting
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Posted: October 26, 2008 5:58 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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Posted: October 26, 2008 5:59 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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The Right Brain vs Left Brain Test ... Do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?
If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa. Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise though you can try to focus and change the direction, see if you can do it. LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS uses logic detail oriented facts rule words and language present and past math and science can comprehend knowing acknowledges order/pattern perception knows object name reality based forms strategies practical safe RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS uses feeling "big picture" oriented imagination rules symbols and images present and future philosophy & religion can "get it" (i.e. meaning) believes appreciates spatial perception knows object function fantasy based presents possibilities impetuous risk taking |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 6:00 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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I can only see her going in the one direction no matter how hard I try to make her go in the opposite direction
![]() P.S. She goes clockwise for me ![]() P.S.S enlarge to get rid of the ghost lines ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 6:02 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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All I can see is that she is not wearing pasties.
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Do you mean clockwise from the top or from the bottom? ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 6:08 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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LMAO I think your using your little Head ![]() ![]()
![]() ![]() Clockwise is rotating when she is facing you her leg goes right to left you know like the clock on the wall ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: October 26, 2008 6:17 am | ||||||||||
ronviers
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I can make her turn either way.
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Posted: October 26, 2008 6:18 am |
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