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Here is one of my disqualified entries.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:50 am |
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Here are the vectors I did in Illustrator.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:52 am |
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And here is the photo I took of blank packages.
Guess why it was disqualified.
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:54 am |
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Beliria
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Wow that's cool Ron, mind how big do they grow? Say you have a garden thats only.. um.. I like it  appeals to my humour Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:56 am |
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Guess why it was disqualified. |
Um.. because you forgot to mention they grow really really big?
No clue really your have to spell it out for me, but it's a shame cause I like it... Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:57 am |
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Beliria wrote:
mind how big do they grow |
Some would get as tall as the moon.  @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 4:58 am |
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your have to spell it out for me |
It was because I used an image of the statue of liberty. It is considered cliché and banned. I did not know that and learned it the hard way. I thought it seemed a little arbitrary and not a good enough reason to ban it. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:01 am |
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was because I used an image of the statue of liberty. |
Okay do they have a list of what you cant use? and if they don't then they shouldn't have disqualified you, or they should point that out and give you time to change that image. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:04 am |
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Beliria wrote:
do they have a list |
Yes, it is clearly spelled out. As is the masking rule that got this one banned.  @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:09 am |
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Beliria
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Shame. Pretty clear and crisp flower picture. Makes me want to sneeze.. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:11 am |
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Actually they never would have known I used a mask but after I learned the rule I had it retroactively disqualified. They even took my little trophy icon away.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:11 am |
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Carl must have used some slow drying glue.
I have to get some rest. Later.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:15 am |
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They even took my little trophy icon away. |
 I feel like swearing now.. I probably would stand no chance on that site.. I break rules a lot cause sometimes that's how good art gets created.
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Carl must have used some slow drying glue. |
Yep just hope he doesn't wake up glued to his bed.. 
Sweet dream's Ron Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:21 am |
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I feel like swearing now. |
Thanks. All I ever wanted was an advocate.
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Yep just hope he doesn't wake up glued to his bed. |
Or Zerin wake up with him glued to her nigglies - I think that's what he calls them.
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Sweet dream's Ron |
Thanks. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 5:29 am |
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Sorry got distracted, first episode of the new series of Dr Who  Ron the seed pic and how you did it is excellent, as the Eiffel tower is only a small part of the concept and application, to say the least you were robbed - I'm very impressed with you Ron  The flower pic stinks - no only kidding | Quote |
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Or Zerin wake up with him glued to her nigglies - I think that's what he calls them. |
LMAO nigglies are irritations hey wait you might be right |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 6:02 am |
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Sorry got distracted, first episode of the new series of Dr Who |
I feel like crying over the last episode of the latest series
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nigglies are irritations |
They are?..
I got distracted with this font am making LOL!
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Ron the seed pic and how you did it is excellent, |
They are Carl and I would be booted of that site if I joined, they probably was jealous of Ron and knew he would become major competition to them so they wanted him out or disheartened enough not to enter etc.. Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 6:50 am |
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Here is one of my disqualified entries. |
Ron how did you do the displacements with the labels on the packets 
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:07 pm |
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I 'Placed' them as smart objects (vectors) in Photoshop. This allows for repeated transformations. Then used the Photoshop warp tool.
Here (and even better here) is a more detail explanation - if you have time to read the captions. @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:14 pm |
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I will finish this tonight. I ventured out on my own of the final section (the laser box attachment). It took to solid days of forcing my method to work but I finally got it. It's much harder working without help.
All I have left is the silencer and hammer. I will be glad to wrap it up - I'm tired of looking at it. I wanted to replace the hammer with a trebuchet but I need to move on.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:28 pm |
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thanks Ron I'll read it all - as a badly self taught PS & illustrator there is so much I don't know about, you are obviously highly skilled, I presumed you used one of the blend option to place the labels without loosing the shadows , will read your thing fully, I thought your idea was very clever and perfectly executed |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:30 pm |
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The mesh  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:30 pm |
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its looking good - keen to see texture on it |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:31 pm |
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the mesh looks complicated |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:33 pm |
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I presumed you used one of the blend option to place the labels without loosing the shadows |
I will post some screen caps of the layers palette in a few minutes.
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I thought your idea was very clever and perfectly executed |
You're too kind.
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keen to see texture on it |
Textures are the next phase - after I complete modeling. I will probably never texture these tutorial models as I am keen to get started with my own designs.
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the mesh looks complicated |
It's not too bad. Most of the complicated parts are generated mathematically by Maya. A lot of it (most of the handle) is blocked in rough then Maya generate the smooth graceful parts. This entire model if done by a pro would only take a morning.
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:40 pm |
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This entire model if done by a pro would only take a morning. |
the way your going I have no doubt you'll get there
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:48 pm |
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The only blending done was a multiply. this was because I did most of the work with the camera. Here is the raw image, cropped then placed, from ACR into PS.
Hold on a sec and I will post the layers info.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:53 pm |
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Here is the only blend mode used. Note, the group blend mode is set to pass-through so it does not contribute.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:56 pm |
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To make it clear what you are seeing here it is with the visibility toggled.  @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 9:57 pm |
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excellent - so smart objects are vectors? |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:01 pm |
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so smart objects are vectors? |
They are still bitmaps but the changes are stored as vectors and not committed - so each interpolation is not based on the previous interpolation but the original bitmap. If that sounds confusing it is because I do not have a perfectly clear idea of how it is done, only how it works. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:07 pm |
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With CS3 (which I do not have) they introduced smart filters!!! I would love to get my hands on that. @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:08 pm |
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What version of PS are you on? @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:08 pm |
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Btw, smart objects do not have to be bitmaps. I also used them for the Illustrator vectors and the ACR image. @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:10 pm |
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CS2 - which unfortunatly doesn't do my camera raws, I think I winged about that before - smart filter sound interesting - I take it your on CS2 as well |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:16 pm |
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If that sounds confusing |
yes LOL
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:17 pm |
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I take it your on CS2 as well |
Yes. Adobe didn't quite make the case for me with CS3. As much as I wanted smart filters (which is the only thing) I could not justify the cost. If I used Lightwave or Poser I would have went for it.
I'm still pissed that they do not make all camera hardware specs avaliable to all ACR versions- that is shortsighted and crappy. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:19 pm |
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I'm sure it to force you to upgrade cause there is no technical reason it can't be done - and I hate being blackmailed  |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:22 pm |
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do you know much about golive |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:23 pm |
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I feel like crying over the last episode of the latest series |
I felt like crying after the first episode - another cliche story or lack of one
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:27 pm |
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do you know much about golive |
I do not even understand how that category is defined, much less the individual product offerings. The whole web graphics thing is like a void to me. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:35 pm |
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adobe has alot of product that seem to double up but I'm probly just missing the point - I mean why not just combine golive and dreamweaver |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:47 pm |
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why not just combine golive and dreamweaver |
I guess it's legacy issues. Autodesk has a similar problem. They have the first and third leading products in the 3d Industry - Maya and 3D Studio Max. I guess the users would freak out if they were required to dump their workflow. It must be very expensive maintaining what is essentially two different companies with two completely seperat cultures and philosophies.
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 10:56 pm |
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they must have thought it was more valuable to buy there competitors, we got a storm going throught, hail thunder lightning I better get off the air for a while |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 11:05 pm |
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Does Australia still have a lot of people using dial-up internet connections? How do most people that have broadband connections connect. Here it is mostly cable and DSL with satellite following a distant third. @ronviers |
| Posted: July 6, 2008 11:10 pm |
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I better get off the air for a while |
Ok, better unplug your computer. Later. @ronviers
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| Posted: July 6, 2008 11:11 pm |
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