Carl's Corner :)

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Carl wrote: I don't think they care who is posting or not posting except maybe Dilla Wink

I'm convinced this isn't so, and that they do care about the community, knowing how important it is to the value of the product. But - as it stands - they're a small team and they're terribly busy with the "damn you, damn you, stupid" Mac version at the moment. As Vlad mentioned, the Mac version is the prerequisite for a successful marketing campaign. I have no concrete data on product sales but I'd wager that until the Mac version marketing goes live FF will remain a relatively obscure niche product.

Also - quite obviously - no amount of bickering/whining will speed up the software development process, so I'm going to spend my time of the wait constructively. When FF 2.0 finally comes (I suspect the beta might be around in the first half of 2009), many of the ongoing issues (availability of a mac version, the resource leak, EULA) will dissolve.

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Beliria wrote: Your be missed Dilla!

I'm glad to hear that, but I definitely won't be leaving until I get the hand-signed cushion collection Bella 'promised' me. So you see, they've got me grounded here!

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Carl wrote: I only started posting after he started talking to me every one else ignored me

Hey, I got the same treatment in the beginning (and I think everyone does)! In reminiscence, my strategy for breaking that treatment was to execute a sublime triple-hit-combo filter whammy:

1) Hit'em like it's hot! --> Incinerate (November 20, 2006)
2) Chill'em real good! --> Ice Age (November 23, 2006)
3) Lounge'em out! --> Lounge Lizards (November 27, 2006)

That got their attention!

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Beliria wrote: Ooo how do you attain that offer?

Read this as a primer, followed by this one (second page).

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Crapadilla wrote: Don't worry!

I understand and I'm glad your not going totally, nothing last forever I know, I'm sure you'll master what ever field you put your hand to - one of the highlights of FF is getting your new filters, your labs and your help with my [ pin up boy for Don'ts ] filters - and the hitman has been recalled I especially want the Filter Comp to go ahead now and FF2 I'll have to bait you with smart arse comments in your filter to check your still there

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Beliria wrote: I get that feeling some days too, but put that down to my paranoia

Alot of people have come and gone, hoping by posting in the forum it will help get their 3 Hu's then pissing off, you are a valuable new contributor who I hope will stay around with you sense of humor and enthusiasm

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Beliria wrote: My thing now is if I make a cool filter like your lounge lizards one do I upload or not... Specially after seeing loads of textures for sale in SL from your filter Sad

If you need the reward points I'd suggest polishing your filters to be as sparklingly attractive as possible and submitting them. Getting 8 reward points (for life-long uprades) will take several good+ filters and a considerable amount of time.

If you don't need the reward points, you'll have to carefully weigh your unbridled altruism with the fact that anything on the filter library worth exploiting WILL get exploited, with some 'parasite' (still love that term) directly profiting off your work without you even being credited or seeing a dime. The way it is currently, established authors had better keep their more advanced work off the Filter Library to avoid committing slow economic suicide. Still, that's just my take on it!

Under the current system, the promise of the FF library quality growing rests with new dedicated authors who are going for it to attain their reward points. As sad as it is, the established authors have little to gain and even more to lose from submitting their work...

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Crapadilla wrote: many of the ongoing issues (availability of a mac version, the resource leak, EULA) will dissolve.

FF has been very generous with there reward system, it's hard not to want there sucess and growth and for themselves to be rewarded for their hard work, I personally was always happy that people were enhancing there art with my filters but hated the idea that there were people just selling them [ something that was given freely ]

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Crapadilla wrote: That got their attention!

simply brillant

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Beliria wrote: Carl gone to bed already?

LOL no I'm just very slow typer, by the time I've posted whole conversations have gone on, so usually no one knows what I'm talking about

Cushions, Pink Sliders, Cheekyness

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Carl wrote: LOL no I'm just very slow typer, by the time I've posted whole conversations have gone on, so usually no one knows what I'm talking about

I know!! There's been two posts while I was typing my last post!!

How many will there be now?

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Crapadilla wrote: Hehe. I'm anxious to see how smart arse you can get...

There's a challenge LOL

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Beliria wrote: How many will there be now?

LOL I think I proved my point

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Beliria wrote: Okay I need to type slower

No don't do that, I'll try two finger

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Carl wrote: No don't do that, I'll try two finger

Um.. wouldn't that make it harder to type hitting one key with two fingers?

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Carl wrote: No don't do that, I'll try two finger

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Beliria types quietly pretending to beStevieJ: I suggest super glue Carl, it will hold the fingers together better. Although make sure it dries before you type otherwise your end up gluing yourself to the keyboard..

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Carl wrote: LOL I type as fast as I think

Oh boy.. Man your so leaving your self open!

Some good ideas Ron, just had a look at the site - noticed one for a logo comp with $150 first prize for a French company, thought it seems a bit tight and exploitory rather than pay a designer, I guess as long as the winner happy

I'll have to have a good look at it - have you entered anything

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Carl wrote: I'll have to have a good look at it

You don't believe me?

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Carl wrote: have you entered anything

Yeah, I had some entries in a few of the photography and photoshop contests. My best entries were disqualified. The rules are very strict and if you break one the others tell on you. Plus I pushed the line on good taste.

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Carl wrote: what did you do

Let's just say basing an entry based on the work of Andres Serrano is not going to get you very far.

Are you still going to enter things over there or have you been black balled

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ronviers wrote: Andres Serrano

I'll have to google him

Competitions are intense. If they were introduced here, the laid-back atmosphere of the ff forums would be confined to this thread.

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ronviers wrote: Competitions are intense. If they were introduced here, the laid-back atmosphere of the ff forums would be confined to this thread.

maybe it needs a bit of a kick in the arse, I hate all the sillyness and off subject talk

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Carl wrote: mmmmmm a bit gimmicky, look at me thing, which I though wasn't the cleverest way to make his point, religion is an easy target for the obvious reasons

Some people need it put right in their face. In the Bush administration they covered the genitals of the statues in the White house. I think they could use a little Piss Christ to help them get over it.

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Beliria wrote: some cool looking images

There are some real masters there - every bit as good at pushing bits with Photoshop as the best are here at ff.

yep you missed the wink and smile

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ronviers wrote: I have got into trouble from that before.

I'm still wondering if Carl tried to glue his fingers together (so he can type faster)... as per-recommended by um.. .StevieJ yesterday...

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Beliria wrote: paint shop pro 9

Is that more for painting than bitmap editing? I have not tried it but I would like to check it out some day.