Carl's Corner :)

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ronviers wrote: so Biliria gets this round

*coughs* I cheated hehe, I had no clue so I did a search for car logos.

another looksie.....

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Carl wrote: Guess what car this is [ that excludes Ron Wink

Ron's Car?

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StevieJ wrote: Okay, I'm going to have to post pics that don't show the emblem

Shucks I knew I shouldn't have coughed up to cheating

Hey folks!

Sorry to bring up this topic again (the SL texture giveaway), but I just found this thread.

Berilia, you said you have talked to her in SL and she seems legit? That's good. I felt so at first, but this morning I had a fit of paranoia, so I came looking for reassurance. Yays!

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Beliria said: I gave her the go ahead ref the presets too, mind I did say I'll upload them and she can give them ones way for free totally, and I will be in my store as well. Will only be the preset textures though.

I was thinking of whipping up some "presets" specifically for SL, but maybe it would make more sense to use the established presets? I mean, if she's trying to keep people from making money off our presets, then using the same ones might be more discouraging to the, um, appropriators. Did that make sense?


And now for something completely different :

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Beliria said: OMG I think my computer burped or something cause the filter I was working on got eaten, while I was tweaking it!... have to go back to another stage of the filter (Which luckily I do have) and put in some of the bits I can remember.. ick!

Yikes! I'm glad you had an earlier version. I do that too. In fact, I'm so paranoid that I must have 20 versions of "Soft Watercolour" hanging around.

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Carl wrote: Guess what car this is

Aussi sports car??? ..... LOL.....

had to play with this one

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Beliria wrote: when a mustang gets rear ended by a semi truck?

LOL.....

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Kraellin wrote: had to play with this one

That looks like it has been "Monsterized".....or "Son-of-Monster Monsterized".....

Hey, no one took a stab at my last car..... ..... It is a "Cadillac Sixteen".....1000 Hp.....most advanced suspension system.....crystal inlay on steering wheel alone costs $5,000.000.....you get the picture.....

You would rather a trivia quiz???

Okay, in the "Ganster/bank robbers" episode of "Gilligan's Island".....while pretending to be an island tribal cheif, what was the only thing Thurston Howell the 3rd said??? LOL.....

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StevieJ wrote: Okay, in the "Ganster/bank robbers" episode of "Gilligan's Island".....while pretending to be an island tribal cheif, what was the only thing Thurston Howell the 3rd said???

White collar crime is much more profitable

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StevieJ wrote: Aussi sports car???

LOL

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Beliria wrote: Um.. when a mustang gets rear ended by a semi truck?

LOL

Sorry but cars are an A to B thing for me and I'm happy with the size of my penis [ teasing ], if the radio works it's a plus

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I was thinking of whipping up some "presets" specifically for SL, but maybe it would make more sense to use the established presets? I mean, if she's trying to keep people from making money off our presets, then using the same ones might be more discouraging to the, um, appropriators. Did that make sense?

I have been making her some textures, but they are basically the same as the presets, but in different colors. The fancier stuff I have been working on will be sold at one of the shops by me eventually, until then the filters I am using to make them will remain mine alone. The filters I have uploaded here have already been so abused that I have given up on them. I did however make textures from the presets and a little extra and gave them away when that designfera whatshisface was selling them.

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ronviers wrote: You just keep telling yourself that.

LOL

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ahimsa wrote: Men are such strange creatures.

I agree, psychiatrists say that a car is an extension of the penis, so if you have a big long red sports car or say rebuild a big truck your trying to compensated for, lets say your short comings and of course I'm not telling you what kind of car I drive

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ahimsa wrote: I have been making her some textures,

yes I'll be making some of the presets for her too

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ronviers wrote: I chose graphic arts.

well you know what physhiatrist say about graphic arts.........

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Carl wrote: Oh only that she has a mac and can't access FF and for her shop she needs the files of the presets to give away so just rendering some jpeg/pngs for her

I understand. Thanks. Have you heard when the Mac version is supposed to be finished?

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Carl wrote: No I,ve got no idea

I wonder if they expected it to take this long.

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Carl wrote: have you been working on Maya and did you see the comp from File Planet

I have been having memory read problems with my PC and have been offline a lot lately. I made some adjustments and am about to try again to see if I got the problem ironed out.
What is File Planet?

Not trying to put the bug on you but, how did the photographing through glass go?

That mucked up free game

it's not linking for some reason you can copy paste if interested and you would have to download the free Fileplanet downloader

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Carl wrote: ronviers wrote: if your in US you can get this at momentfree game (http://www.fileplanet.com/187537/1800...ree-Game))

LOL! almost missed that one.

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ronviers wrote: 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow'

I'll have to catch it sometimes, and Ferris work look cool, if you play games Bioshock has that style as well

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Carl wrote: Bioshock

Yes, the cut scenes look fantastic. I am more of an RPG man but FPS and even god games are fine too - never tried a capture the flag type. What is your favorite.

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ronviers wrote: I am more of an RPG man but FPS and even god games are fine too

Yep I like Rpg and Fps [ as long as its not just running around shooting ] and even racing games like NFS, I'm currently playing Stalker [ Shadow of Chernobyl ] a 2006 game which has excellent graphics, good game play [ free roam missions with in storyline missions ] good weather condition, anomalies, mutations and detail Industrial wasteland, the ai is a bit clunky only draw back, there is a new one coming out where the graphic look amazing Clear sky

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ronviers wrote: It would have caused a lot of eye strain so I went with the smaller one.

Unfortunatly I get that from reading too much on screen

My most sincere greetings everyone

I was lead and invited to post here by a FF user and most appreciate the invitation for it provides an opportunity to present myself and exchange about everything in a way that is clear and transparant, wish means a lot to me.

You would not believe how much I understand any questions you might have had about myself and this project. Entering SL, I was soon dizzy of all the scams I saw in more ways than only the texture subjects that leads to us meeting.

First, I am Ambrosia Messmer in SL and presented myself this way to you so if you wish to reach me you may easely find me. I am no "alt" either, this is who I am since I first entedred this virtual world For those who wonders what an atl is, those are extra account people open and use to do diferent kind of scams or griefing and those bring much difficulty as to find who the "real" user is.
Also when the bad behavior implicates money, the 'real person' do receive the money obtained by the atl. I believe those began a lot few years back, when Linden lab opened a project of selling first land at a very cheap price to new residents. People would then open many other accounts, get those cheap land, join them and resell them at a large amount. They of course and unfortunatly had to cancel the project, and new residents now have to pay full price for their first land purchase. Now those alts are everywhere in SL and used for diferent purpose. A few are well used; like people creating clothing, if they are men, would create a female to test their female clothing and to create presentation image of their products, or to position poseballs on furniture since male and female size isn't the same (those are balls containing animation which animates the avy when it sits on it). So do not think badly when you hear the 'atl' word, but indeed most of them are missused in too many ways.

So here I am, this is me inworld, finally without my manly smith clothes and cleaned of the building dirt lol
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/2596634951_0ec104f080.jpg?v=0[/img]

I am someone who never gets tired of learning and discovering, and very soon when I entered second life I began to create by myself. Using a prim and play with it is rather fun really =) but once the object is created, textures need to be applied to it.

The freebie textures currently available in SL are very old and it poor format. The reason that now, in 2008, the freebies are still so old, is that all the free images available on the web are currently being resold by opportunist who enters second life with a money goal. Most of those images are also copyrighted.

As a new user, seing all those beautifull textures which I though professional and copyright owned by who would sell them inworld as well as on SLX (which is the site where people advertise and sell their inworld creation), and having absolutely no money to afford them like most other users, I began to browse the web and use what I could find to texture my build.

When I first sold a few of my builds and recieved a few lindens for them, I was very excited to finally go to the real textures store and browse the SLX posts to purchase "real" textures... but it is also then that I was shocked to see that I already had those images, and the scams happening around. Sold are free website images, as well as plenty of copyrighted textures. "professional" yes, "hand drawn" yes... just not by whom claims copyright on them and illegally sells them.

Trying to encourage creation as I can in SL and being a non competitive person who appreciates and does give credit for other people's work, this really shocks me as much for the new users who have nothing nice to create with and are being robbed of the lindens they get, but also for the creators of the textures and images as they put in much work for those and some even lives on their work.. and meanwhile it is the "X" SL user getting the credit for it and filling his pockets.

idk.. this upsets me very much lol but it's how I am.

About the project I have, the goal is to offer those images for free so people have may have fun creating with something nice , and if they they didn't know about the availability of those images on the web, at least they will now recognize them get them, and stop paying for them.

I have to say that right away this simple project was a success, as many artists are inworld as choked as I am and were very excited about this project. Residents also had recognised some of those textures and were a bit agry for having payed almost a K of linden for some. And people who sells those where already disturbed learning of the project and trying to find ways so it doesn't take place.

There are few things I would like to bring light on..


1- The 1L$ donation.

The 1L$ donation was not part of the initial project. It had been suggested to me in reply to my initial request by some of you who happends to know what this project was about to cost me. Since at first all reply was containing something like this or telling me I could even sell those, I finally considered it and for few hours the ones that where uploaded were set to the 1 Linden donation. When some of you gave me the ok but requested that no money would be asked, I resend the permission request to inform of the 1L$ suggestion and ask if it was ok. if it wasn,t it was fine as well, the amount would be 0.

This being said, you may not imagine how much this project will cost and 1L$ is so little that it really makes no diference in the amount I need to pay.

Also, another current scam in SL are the "camping" which are poseballs that give 1 or 2 linden per 10 or 20 min people sit on them, and are used to attract newbies and have them stay a long time on the land of who uses it. The reason they are used is for this makes their traffic count boost, which then allows to rent the shops on lands at outstanding prices because it gives the possible tenants the impression that they may make a lot of money selling there, for big traffic means a lot of possible customers. *sigh* of course that is not the case as broke people needing to sit on a ball for hour just to get few lindens can't afford what those people have to sell.

And not only that, but now there are camping atl 'bot' which are alt that are controled by computer programs to sit on every camping balls they may find to generate money to the basic user who owns the program, so newbies, not only have to pay outstanding prices for freebie textures, and have to camp for weeks to get the money to buy them by boosting traffic of money making mall owners, but even have to compete with computer programs to get those!

*falls dizzy by all this abusive nonsense*

So to those of you who kindly suggested the 1L$, I wish to explain that I really dont want new users having to camp to pay a donation for the textures. There would be the possibility of writing a note saying they could contact me to get them free but what if I'm not online ? Oh no.. too much trouble and not worth it. The display are set to 100% free, touch and receive. There will be a donation bowl if ever someone whishes to help with the upload cost, but that's as far as I will go.

Also, the few people who had gave a 1L$ donation for the little time that this was set, have all been refund for it would not be fair for others to get free what they spend 1L$ for.


2- You're feeling there is nothing you can do to prevent me from hosting your presets.

I would like to establish clearly that the eula allowing something doesn't mean anything to me if you are not ok with the project. Of all the replies I received when I first wrote, only two expressed not being comfortable with it and of those two only one was someone who I had uploaded few textures from. They were taken off immediately.

This projects is made with respect. If you dont feel comfortable, it matters.
It important to me that you be ok with this project and that you know what happens with what you created.
If you are not ok with it, nothing from you will be hosted.


3- "Any credit involved? =)"

lol Yes! Of course! I dont just wish for resident to have this free but also know who made it, You did some amazing work and people need to know of you. It will as well help undo the confusion concerning people claiming copyright for things you created. *huge smile & a wink*

The textures are displayed by creator. I make a texture in PS with your creator name on it which is applied to the display front once uploaded. there are arrows to browse through your textures and people may get a copy by simply touching the image. At the bottom of the display, I installed a prim with a web click script. when people click it, their browser opens on your personal webpage

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2597610770_5f5e1053f0.jpg?v=0[/img]


4- Discouragement..

I am currently a bit discouraged atm I must admit. You see, I really don't have much money to live on in RL (very too little to dare mention publicly) nor do I make much in SL either. I even have a few shops for rent on my land and let them free lol I am the not the money making type and have my tenants sometimes send me a "you know.. it,s OK to receive money sometime" lol. Also, all the images seen sold everywhere are the images from the filters thread, not modded or not filters preset opened in FF.

So when I began receiving your blessing few days ago for those images, I transfered in sl the little money I had and spent it all, along with the small Linden income received from the selling of my furniture, to upload the new images.

Once done and officialy broke, I was told by a user kind enough to directly join textures with his message, that I was not authorised to used anything I had uploaded coming from the filters thread, but only the exact same images when opened with the FF application. So I was finding myself having to throw away all this money ... not invested to make more, not invested for me, but donated, from me, for others, for freebies.

Also, I own a mac. FF is for PC only. I cannot open filters.

I wanted to die..
This was so discouraging..

Also, new happy SL residents were now teleporting in an empty space, and upset money making of copyrighted texture sellers now smiling for the project was out of the way.

I was now also finding myself having to re-write to everyone and ask them if they would be kind enough to go through all the trouble of opening the filters and send directly the textures, which was so humiliating to me.

You know, it's like going from "would you give me permission to use your shovel, I need to level down my land" to "well, here's the shovel back, go dig it for me" O.o

Of course many wont, and I understand them!: the exact same image is just right there! lol

And those -are- what is sold.

The guy for instance on slx who has 68 pages of copyrighted textures some being the exact images posted here and others copyrighted freebies from Renderosity not allowed to be sold and certainly not as is, I dont believe for a second that he purchased FF or even bothered for a second to get the free FF "just to be in right" of selling those images..

I just.. well enough is said, I am sure my point is understood : /

I can't express however how blessed I feel from those who are currently working to personaly send some.
It really does feel like a collaboration and shows me how much this whole ideal project has value.

- Taking something that you have the legal right to, is one thing.
- Taking something that you have the legal right to and also have the blessing of the creator, is amazing
- But being in legal right and having the creators blessing and believe enough that there is an actual share and collaboration of work to put a project up ? Ask me how proud I am to create those display writing the creators name in gold..
you rock and this is a true pleasure.

Now broke I cant upload much though.. but I keep those and everytime I sell a furniture peice I upload what I can.

I hope that I was able clear any ambiguity concerning myself and this project for the community, if you have any concern please feel free to express it as it matters.

*waves and smiles*

Ambrosia

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Carl wrote: Does Linden do anything about copyright infringements if pointed out?

Yes

http://secondlife.com/corporate/dmca.php

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Carl wrote: LMAO I had a feeing I shouldn't have started that

hehe My bad, just couldn't resist it

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Ambrosia wrote: My most