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this is straight out of the camera no post work

Did you shoot jpg or raw? If it is jpg what post processing do you have the camera configured to do? All raw images will benefit from sharpening. smile:)

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you ain't so young


Here is another give away.

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Did you shoot jpg or raw?

To my sadness [ and annoyance at a adobe ] when I shot my first shots in raw and tryed to process them in CS2 it doesn't support 40D [CR2 raw ] - CS3 does and there is no reason that the raw can't be updated but they are playing a game where they are trying to force the camera manufactures to use a standard raw of theres I think it something DNP or DNT or something like that - I do think there should be a standard raw format it's stupid for camera manufacturers to have different ones on different camera model and adobe want to corner the market like PDFs - so I either update to CS3 [ can't afford to, and just to get the raw seem extravagant ] the canon raw processer program is to limited and I just don't like the feel off it [ might get use to it ] - short answer fine jpg smile:)



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Here is another give away.

Very interesting [ couldn't read all the titles, a very well thumbed lord of the rings, maths, psychology, literature - mmmm no art books or photography books ? - insight coming on - you think to much, over analitical, looking for meaning where there is none, escape to fantasy but your too rational to believe in fairies or crystals healing power, you like clutter because it gives you a sense of warmth and security while working as a cocoon, you either make your own bookcases and /or like rustic furniture because it is the opposite to modern society of metal, glass and concrete though secretly you yern for it but can't admit it. Your a good natured and kind person who feels misunderstood smile;)

ok cheap assumptions - insert slap here............ smile:D no offense ment smile:angel:
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CS2 it doesn't support 40D

un-f-ing believable! Are you certain about that? That's just crazy.

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they are trying to force the camera manufactures to use a standard raw

I don't think there ever can or should be a standard raw. Things like sensor and stabilization technology will continue to evolve, each requiring a specific interface definition. That said, the Cannon raw converter is quite good, I used it for quite a while before switching to Adobe's ACR. I like ACR. So you shot in jpg. What post processing do you have the camera doing? I think by default they are set to bump up saturation, contrast and do some sharpening.

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no art books or photography books

Well, it is only one of many shelves but I take your point on the ratio. Both of those interests came to me within the last couple of years. smile:)

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rustic furniture because it is the opposite to modern society of metal, glass and concrete though secretly you yern for it but can't admit it

That analysis is a little too complicated. Actually I had some boxes I needed to unpack and found some unused fence posts in the yard so I cut them up. smile:bunny:

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looking for meaning where there is none

none, so far... smile:-p

I wish you could have seen my collection of stone, glass and crystal orbs. I had to sell them. smile:cry: I gave up the reefer years ago but I would sure like to have all my old bongs back - that would be a cool collection. smile8) smile:D

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you like clutter

You want clutter! I have tons of shelves that look just like this. smile:)

note:the blue glow off to the right is central to my plans to take over the world. smile:)

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That's just crazy.

smile:evil: it sure is, it makes me resent adobe
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Well, it is only one of many shelves but I take your point on the ratio

there was a lot of assumption at least I know the thing you didn't refer to are true smile:dgrin:
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That analysis is a little too complicated. Actually I had some boxes I needed to unpack and found some unused fence posts in the yard so I cut them up

You still made decision about what you were going to do - another person would have seen other options smile;)
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I wish you could have seen my collection of stone, glass and crystal orbs

thats a shame you had to sell them smile:|
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I gave up the reefer years ago but I would sure like to have all my old bongs back - that would be a cool collection.

Bad Ron.............. you should have kept them smile:devil:
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You want clutter! I have tons of shelves that look just like this

I'm a clutterer too smile;)
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note:the blue glow off to the right is central to my plans to take over the world

now your frightening me smile:eek: smile:D
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I gave up the reefer years ago but I would sure like to have all my old bongs back

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You can have some of mine.....I only use my "Man-of-war" Mega-hitter..... smile:devil:

smile:| ..... smile:dgrin:

Hey, what if C-A-T spelled "dog"??? smile:dgrin:
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I gave up the reefer years ago but I would sure like to have all my old bongs back

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You can have some of mine.....I only use my "Man-of-war" Mega-hitter.....

.....

Bad Steve smile:evil: smile:D
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Hey, what if C-A-T spelled "dog"???

LOL your messed up aren't you smile:D
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LMAO..... smile:D
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Crap!!! I dropped my roach and burnt a hole in my pants!!!

smile:| ..... smile:dgrin: LMAO.....
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Hey, what if C-A-T spelled "dog"???

The old one Dog backwards is God smile;)
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Crap!!! I dropped my roach and burnt a hole in my pants!!!

LMAO smile:D For that, I hope her grass skirt catches on fire smile;) smile:dgrin:
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it makes me resent adobe

me too

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now your frightening me

It's about time. smile:dgrin:

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Hey, what if C-A-T spelled "dog"???

smile:D LOL... wow, man...that would be so cool..

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LMAO..... smile:D
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her grass skirt catches on fire

What skirt??? smile:dgrin:
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Hi everyone! Sorry I'm not around these days, too busy with that real life thing.

Bought Carrara Pro 6 at DAZ's last sale and hope to learn modeling on it. I'm tired of buying models and I really would like to make my own props that no one else will have. I really hate doing a picture and having people point out who made each of the models or who made the clothes. I want something that will actually be unique to me.

So, besides smoking pot and burning holes in your pants, anything exciting happening here?
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Hi ahimsa! Welcome back! smile:D

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hope to learn modeling

Me too! I just order my tutorial DVDs - they should be here any day now. smile:banana:
I made it through rigging. I don't know everything I need to knwo but I think I can prevent the texture stretching you mentioned in another thread. smile:)

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I want something that will actually be unique to me

That's what I want too.

I was going to ask a few days ago if you had been working on any 3d scenes lately.

I get to learn a car too, the Lamborghini Murcielago, but I have to do a gun first - I don't mind. smile:) Hopefully you will have some time to talk about what you are learning. Have you received the Carrara DVD yet.
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I get it! Carrara is not a tutorial to model a Carrara. It is a full-blown modeling package! D'oh! It looks great. I am just starting to read about it.
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DAZ had it on sale so I got a pretty expensive program for a very nice price. It also is good for rendering so I can get better looking pics from it and I will use that to make the wedding invitations.

This program is supposed to make the hair look more realistic and I am looking forward to that. I have Hex 2. whatever, but I think I want to do everything in Carrara. Hex 2 was sold at DAZ last year or the year before for only $2. smile:D (Hex = Hexagon)

I saw the posts where you are expecting some DVDs. The programs I have from DAZ are download versions except for Bryce 5 that I got from them for the cost of postage a few years ago. Now I have Bryce 6 that they sold for $6. last year I think. I need for them to buy Vue so I can get that cheap too. smile:D

I hope to get started with Carrara in a few weeks. I need Daniel to install the new RAM first.
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The spider should be a fun one to learn. The car and the human will be the hardest ones I think.
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Woo hoo smile:love:
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DAZ had it on sale so I got a pretty expensive program for a very nice price.

You seem to have a nack for good deals smile;) smile:)
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make the wedding invitations.

Have I missed something - who's getting married smile:?:

Went to the opening of the travelling Archibald Exhibition tonight [ Biggest art prize in Aus { portraiture } some beautiful one and some crap of course and of course seeing them huge make a difference to the impression on you smile:D
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What skirt???

LMAO smile:D
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I hear lots of good things about Vue. I started to download the PLE once but decided it would be a distraction from rigging.
Now I'm trying to get my head out of rigging and into modeling.
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I need Daniel to install the new RAM first.

Maybe you could do some sweet talking and get him to do it today. smile:)

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The spider should be a fun one to learn.

I'm looking forward to the spider because I would like to rig it.

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The car and the human will be the hardest ones

I like the looks of the human. smile:) I am looking forward to adding textures to her. smile;) smile:)
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the travelling Archibald Exhibition tonight

I like Peteris Ciemitis and David Bromley but best I like Alexander McKenzie - I love Sarah Blasko. My next girlfriend will be just like her - except her face will be a little rounder.

Hey, I just noticed this guys head looks exactly like mine!
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Guess I forgot to mention I started a business...oops smile:D

The invitations will be sold to people having weddings and parties that are not Victorian, fluffy, frilly, fakey smilie ones. I will also be making items to be used for decorating parties and weddings that are not Victorian.

Daniel and Ronda work tomorrow and again I will have the baby. Daniel isn't that experienced with computers, so he will need at least an hour to open my tower, remove the old stick, put it in this computer so I have 2 gigs in here, and put the new ones in the best computer. He will also dust my machines out. The kids have been really busy, but hopefully next Sunday he can do this. I need to get to learning that program.

Carl, glad you had a good time there. I've never been to something like that, but I did go to the Denver Art Museum about 100 years ago.
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Ron, you got a crooked head and huge ears?
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I started a business

Congrats and good luck. smile:)

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He will also dust my machines out.

I did that a few days ago, because summer is coming on, it took a whole can of air but it dropped the running temperature of my system from 70c to 56c while running the same app.

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you got a crooked head and huge ears?

No, I was only talking about the size relative to the shoulders. The facial features are dissimilar.
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The winner was Del Kathryyn Barton it's different but not my taste, Zerin and my mother [ who is a portrait painter ] love it, again huge and imensely detailed which doesn't show in the pic - I like Peteris as well [ it is massive ], Zai Kuang was beautiful, Sarah Blasko was huge too and I liked it [ she is a singer ] and she is pretty skinny if you see her, John Phillips portrait of Wendy [ Brett Whitely's ( one of my favorite tragic artist ) wife ] look a hundred times better in real life, amazing how bad it looks in pic smile:| , it has inspired me to paint more which I've been neglecting lately in favour of computer art smile;) smile:)
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The invitations will be sold to people having weddings and parties that are not Victorian

I take offense to that I'm a Victorian [ The State I live in ] smile;) smile:)
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I started a business

excellent smile8)
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No, I was only talking about the size relative to the shoulders. The facial features are dissimilar.

There is a rumor that Ron has chicken legs and a watermellon head but I would not repeat such slander - even though ron started it smile:|
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Ron has chicken legs and a watermellon head


I have to buy my hats at the men's big-and-tall shop and my pants in the boys department. smile:cry:

I can tell you this much, first hand, having chickens stand on your shoulders may be very pretty but it is also very uncomfortable.
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I still wear Barbie underwear...TMI? smile:D
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Sorry I shouldn't make fun of anyone appearance, I was going to delete that but you beat me to it smile:blush:
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I still wear Barbie underwear

You must be tiny or there very tight smile:dgrin:
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I still wear Barbie underwear


I'm all confused. smile:?: Maybe you should post a pic or something.

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I shouldn't make fun of anyone appearance

Don't worry, I'll get you back... smile:-p
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Have a good one.

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I'm all confused. Maybe you should post a pic or something

LOL I can see Ahimsa shaking her head saying MEN!!!
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Don't worry, I'll get you back...

Oh ........... remember forgiveness is a virtue smile:angel: That blue light is troubling smile:|
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Ron this might be of interest and alot cheaper than Maya - but I don't know if it does what you wantSilo 2.0 $159 us
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Manon Lives!!! smile;) smile:D Hope all is well.... smile:)

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You must be tiny or there very tight

I'm not going to touch that one..... smile:| ..... smile:dgrin:
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thank you for that link, carl, the Silo one! smile:)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

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It looks good to me for the price Craig but I don't know much about 3d programs, it does say free trial down load which reverts to learning after trial period and can be used as a free converter, so what ya got to loose smile:D
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she is a singer

Is she Australian? I notice in one of her videos the car has the steering wheel on the wrong side.
Her voice, at times, reminds me of Melanie Safka.
I like her performance here. The crowd will not sit down or shut up but she doesn't let it get to her.

I am still blown away by how great the music is from Pan's Labyrinth - Javier Navarrete. I have been playing the soundtrack in a lppo of days.

Silo 2 looks very interesting - thank you for the link. It probably has advantages over Maya but Maya has the momentum (for me I mean). I may have to change later, in fact I probably will, but now is not the time. I have bookmarked it and will come back to it when it gets closer to time to choose. smile:) There is another one that Dilla, I think it was called Modulo or something, recommended months ago that I will also evaluate when it's time. But who knows, i could still pull this off. smile:)
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Check these tunes out and tell me what you think.....turned up, headphones, and no distractions.....some recent "abstractions" that I liked..... smile;) smile:)

"Half Light (tail credit)" - soundtrack to "The Mothman Profecies"
http://free.napster.com/player/?play_...type=track

"Love Song for a Vampire" - sountrack to "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
http://free.napster.com/player/?play_...type=track

"Passive" - A Perfect Circle
http://free.napster.com/player/?play_...type=track
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Thanks for the links Steve. smile:) I tried the napster links but I could not get them to work. Here are their respective youtube links - I cannot vouch for the quality. I have placed them at the top of my queue but it will take hours for them to download with my connection. I really like Annie Lennox so I'm really looking forward to that one. smile:)
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After I started working with ff I began to wonder when to use displacement maps and when to use geometry. Yesterday I ran on to this article wherein they state this:

"Motion blur and displacement are the holly grail of visual effects,...displacement and motion blur do not seem to go together very well," as a result most of the skin texture and scales were modelled and not done with displacement maps in 3D. Render times were therefore an issue, " when you ray trace shadows it becomes a huge deal out of Mental Ray, .. it has become a huge huge deal, - the person who develops a good 2D motion blur will be a millionaire." Cafefx found that to render motion blur in 3D would take a 4 hour render per frame and turn it into a 20 hour per frame. But still they had to work hard to get the realism Burrell wanted."

This was all new to me. It looks like two of the primary determinants are render time and whether there will be motion blur – interesting. Does anyone know of a movie that has some outstanding vfx motion blur? This is not something I have ever thought about noticing before. smile:)
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Check these tunes

My favorite so far is 'A perfect Circle'. Sounds a little like 'Tool'.
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Yeah, I heard "Passive" from the movie "Constantine" and liked it.....both the movie and the song. I say "abstractions" because they are kinda off the beaten track of what I usually like.....select songs from groups like Goo Goo Dolls, Vertical Horizon, Evanescence, Def Leopard, Linkin Park, Pink Floyd, Econoline Crush, etc.....quite a mix of hard and soft rock (depending on my mood) that you can actually hear the words..... smile;) smile:)

I've even been known to listen to the "Best of Bread" every once in a while..... smile:| LOL.......
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Check these tunes out and tell me what you think.....

napster free not available outside US smile;)
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Here are their respective youtube links

I will have look when have chance smile;)
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Yesterday I ran on to this article wherein they state this:

I will have look when have chance smile;)
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Motion blur and displacement are the holly grail of visual effects

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Does anyone know of a movie that has some outstanding vfx motion blur? This is not something I have ever thought about noticing

they were advertising the new chronicles of narnia and the lion had the effect - good fx in first one, very much kids story smile;)
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"Best of Bread"

smile:blush: I had it on vinyl
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the new chronicles of narnia and the lion had the effect

I look forward to watching it. If it's too kidsie I will just watch the special features included on the DVD - usually I prefer that to the movie itself.

Here is what Digital Domain had to say about the motion blur they used in Speed Racer.

"On top of the hard geometry of the race track and its environment, someone at DD calculated these massive data sets also had some 2.1 million digital crowd members watching the final race. All of which needed to be motion blurred -- both motion blurred accurately and as a stylistic decision and technique. To do this, a combination of Mental Ray and DD's own 2.5 post processing motion blur was used. Doug Noble at DD wrote a new motion blur tool as the actual motion blur varied on different objects in the same scene.

Motion blur is caused by the duration of the exposure which is turn is controlled by the angle of the shutter on a traditional film camera. During post, the Wachowski Brothers along with VFX supervisor John Gaeta and digital supervisor Dan Glass would set individual shutter angles on separate objects. They would request in dailies "make that car 45 degree shutter, that one 120 degree shutter, cartoon motion blur on that, back on 120 degree here.. etc " explains Libreri. They had "multiple combinations of the shutter angles for the motion blur on multiple objects in the scene, and if the Mach 6 blew by the camera, then they may have a combination of 180 degree shutter angle, mixed and blurred with video shutter angles", so you would see the Mach 6 cleanly but with trailing motion blur speed lines. This was done in the composite in Nuke."

This one is supposed to be kidsie too but I am really looking forward to seeing it. The critics panned it but maybe it is because it is so highly stylized. It may be viewed differently ten years from now. I remember Roger Ebert, my favorite critic, gave a bad review to Alien when it came out, but many years later, decided it was a "great movie" but that it has scared him too much when he saw it the first time. The Wachowski brothers are given more artistic latitude and money than anyone in the world, well, maybe not Spielberg, so it could be pretty good - at least look good. smile:)
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