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No, not that one either. And not Rumpelstiltskin too. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 12:51 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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I think they way it did it in the Lexus add was to use the plasma ball as an emitted particle - like they show in this this video.
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Posted: December 23, 2008 12:57 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Posted: December 23, 2008 1:36 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Beliria, I decided to install Python, and finally got it working on XP, so let me know if you decide to install it and want some tips.
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Posted: December 23, 2008 1:55 am | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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sorry, cant watch that one as it needs quicktime and i wont install quicktime as long as it forces me to also install itunes. bad mistake, apple! and hi, carl ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 23, 2008 12:53 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Can Flash do this kind of thing? http://www.artbeats.com/clips/5707/8507 http://www.artbeats.com/clips/6692/10076 http://www.artbeats.com/clips/6686/10070 http://www.artbeats.com/clips/6691/10075 I this is something like what I want to do with FF - but better. ![]() http://www.artbeats.com/collections/121
Those jerks. ![]() I checked and I have quicktime but no itunes. Maybe I installed it then removed the itunes but I do not remember. @ronviers |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:24 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:27 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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The are getting good money for these clips- and I can do better with ff.
![]() They have it set up so anyone can submit footage but I ahve not looked into the details. @ronviers |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:30 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Hi Ronviers,
I'm not sure about the new CS4 version of flash, but in the past you've needed a special plugin to go actually 3d with it. Might be better off w/ after effects, which has a 3d camera. Really skilled people can do amazing things w/ flash, though.
You might give Particle Illusion a try for this sort of thing. Much easier than FF for animation and NTSC output. (btw: it KILLS me how much Artbeats charges for their clips. 500$ for that centrifusion collection? pfft! Just get Particle Illusion and make your own.)
Actually, I think that might have been done w/ some Redgiant / Trapcode products for Adobe After Effects. http://www.trapcode.com/ specifically: http://www.trapcode.com/products_3dstroke.html -CCX |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:38 pm | ||||||||||||||
CorvusCroax
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Aha: if you read the article here's what they say they did: (They used trapcode form, trapcode particular and trapcode soundkeys.) http://www.cgchannel.com/news/viewfea...1&pageid=1
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:41 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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I will take a look - thanks. ![]()
They charge more for their HD and all I would need to do is set ff to 1920x1920 and set up an crop action in PS. I will look at Particle Illusion but I can make some very pretty things in FF - if I can get it to batch render with my slider values. ![]()
Yes, it was a good article, but there is no doubt that these are my plasma balls. ![]() ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:46 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Artbeats has several good AE tutorials.
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Posted: December 23, 2008 4:51 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Particle Illusion is amazing!
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Posted: December 23, 2008 6:58 pm | ||||||||||||||
CorvusCroax
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Yeah, PI is pretty great. One of the best things is the HUGE library of free particle emitters which come out every month - or - so. I'd say it's one of my primary tools, actually. It's good for still work, too: "hey, I need some explosions and some smoke in this shot... "
The simple bounce and gravity physics are a nice touch, to. The developer (Alan Lorence IIRC) is also a good guy, and if you have problems, they're responsive and helpful. It's actually kind of fun to use, too. Sometimes when I have a bunch of people over, I just turn it on and let people play with the OpenGL preview. It's fun to just click the screen and have things explode. My only gripes w/ PI are: a) that it needs better support for making looping sequences (I think you should be a button which says 'make this loop') You make things loop now, but it's kind of inelegant, and doesn't work too well w/ alpha transparency. b) multi-cell rendering: ie rendering an animation to an image sheet say 10 cells x 20 cells. Also, if you use After Effects, Trapcode Particular is a prettty cool program, too. It's like PI, but uses the 3d camera in AE, and integrates w/ all the other AE plugins. |
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Posted: December 23, 2008 9:06 pm | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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ron,
thanks for the headsup on irfanview. i downloaded the latest plus all the plugins. however, i cant seem to get it to display those quicktime movies. what's the trick? do i have to download the clips or can i just view them from the web site using irfanview? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 23, 2008 9:49 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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PI leaves me with a dilemma too complicated to explain - but it basically comes down to cash. For now I will keep my focus on Fusion/Maya and hope for the best.
I wish I had some geeky RL friends like that. ![]()
I am only one tutorial in to Fusion and I already understand the importance of looping.
This one I don't get yet, but I will pick it up soon.
I have been watching the AE tutorials and it looks like something I would be comfortable with because of its similarity to PS. That said, Fusion is nodal and similar to Maya so I prefer it. I will check out Trapcode - thanks.
That's a bummer Craig, I just tried it on two of my machines and it worked fine. I do not know what it could be. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: December 24, 2008 1:20 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Btw, I am aware of Maya's particle capabilities but I am using the PLE version - no commercial use.
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Posted: December 24, 2008 1:25 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Hey Craig, I use a Firefox extension called DownloadHelper. If you use Firefox you may be able to download the videos and watch them locally.
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Posted: December 24, 2008 1:39 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Craig, as an example of the coolness you're missing out on, look at this image. It shows a .PSD with 26 layers, loaded into Fusion. Notice in the upper left region you can see all the layers – in 3d space!
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Posted: December 24, 2008 2:09 am | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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looks cool, ron
![]() so, on this quicktime plugin for irfanview, is it just supposed to run irfanview automatically when a quicktime movie is requested to be displayed or does it somehow run the embedded thing on that web page or what? do i have to download something or what? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 24, 2008 9:03 am | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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It will depend on how you have configured your file associations at the os level and at the browser level. I also run an extension called 'NoScript' that disallows all scripts by default - here is a sample of what it does. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: December 24, 2008 2:21 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Call me a little untrusting, but I have been burned in the past and I just don't need any problems.
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Posted: December 24, 2008 2:23 pm | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok, that quote is from the irfanview help file. you have to have the actual apple quicktime installed and not just the plugin for irfanview. all the plugin does, apparently, is to allow you to play the quicktime movies within irfanview. lol. oh well, maybe i can uninstall the itunes part. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 24, 2008 3:42 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Sorry about the bogus info - I thought I was using Irfanview.
![]() Here is a link to get the standalond quicktime. @ronviers |
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Posted: December 24, 2008 4:26 pm | ||||||||||||||
Beliria
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Posted: December 24, 2008 7:01 pm | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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thanks, ron
![]() merry christmas, bel ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 25, 2008 8:55 am | ||||||||||||||
Beliria
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![]() put the cat in cause it needed something more ![]() Mind did an other one with a sleigh and a white cat.. um lol, will have to dig that out and make it pretty Nothing wrong with a little insanity ;)
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Posted: December 25, 2008 9:51 am | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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cool beans
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 25, 2008 12:46 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 25, 2008 5:02 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Merry Christmas to all of you in this thread.
Still sick, but on anti-biotics. Had my appointment not been moved to an earlier date I would have been in the hospital. Doc said I would have been septic in another day or two. Oh well, getting better now. Hope to have fun with all of you again soon. ![]() |
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Posted: December 25, 2008 7:57 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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Merry Christmas to you too ahimsa. Sorry to hear you're still sick but it is wonderful that you will be getting better. I will be glad when you are back.
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Posted: December 25, 2008 9:09 pm | ||||||||||||||
ahimsa
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I'll be glad when I'm back.
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Posted: December 25, 2008 10:17 pm | ||||||||||||||
ronviers
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You know how addictive it is.
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Posted: December 25, 2008 10:22 pm | ||||||||||||||
ahimsa
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You know it. I have really been missing it. Hopefully once I'm well I can get the cataracts removed and play with my programs again. I want to play with my Carrara program and see what I can do with it.
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Posted: December 25, 2008 10:31 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 9:53 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 9:53 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 9:57 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 9:59 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 11:02 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 26, 2008 11:38 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 27, 2008 12:00 am | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok, we're NOT going to do another 10 pages of 'ron's balls', even if they do look good
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Craig |
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Posted: December 27, 2008 12:21 am | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 27, 2008 12:23 am | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 27, 2008 12:33 am | ||||||||||||||
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Posted: December 27, 2008 12:50 am |
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