Carl's Corner :)

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Beliria wrote: for week two attempt to get blood

How come they need to get blood?

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Beliria wrote: Did the examples parts just have to finish the homework part..

I'm beginning to get worried Beliria, you're not falling behind are you?

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ronviers wrote: I'm beginning to get worried Beliria, you're not falling behind are you?

Heya no just not feeling right with the weather.. think I want to hibernate .

Just handed in this weeks homework finally though.

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ahimsa wrote: The guy put me in the hospital, and caused Paul and an old women to have injuries and all he cared about was that the police towed his truck away.

hugs! That gets me.. how someone can use a car to kill people and get such a short sentence. Even worse when they are repeat offenders . One that bugs me in the UK is they get a prison sentence and driving ban on the same day.. the driving ban starts that day and is basically the same length of time as the prison sentence. So all that tallies down to is when they are released they can drive again.. go figure.

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StevieJ wrote: breathalizers in cars

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StevieJ wrote: GPS tracking devices and speed governors

Those are great ideas. Especially for the young and people in treatment.

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StevieJ wrote: sole responsibility

I disagree with that. All adults are role models even if they don't act like it. Besides, some kids are just born rotten - they torture animals and do mean things.

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ronviers wrote: Those are great ideas. Especially for the young and people in treatment.

Yeah.....help to keep teens out of trouble.....and/or make mandatory that first-time offenders pay to have it installed in their cars.....which would have stopped that woman from killing more kids.....as Bel was talking about.....

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ronviers wrote: some kids are just born rotten

I don't agree.....I don't think anyone is born that way.....and it's all in how children are treated, what they are exposed/subjected to.....which makes them like that. For example, take a child born into an abusive family.....in all likelyhood, that child will grow up to be abusive themselves. Take the same child from the same abusive parents and put them into a loving, caring, family environment right after birth.....and it will be much more likely that child will grow up to be a loving, caring person who is not abusive. Just my opinion on it.....

No.....I'm talking about children with no "defects" disposed towards aggression.....their character, level of aggression, anger managment, etc are formed by how they are treated and what they are subjected to during childhood. Modern child psychology conclusively supports this.....and I happen to agree with it.....

You don't think that children become products of their "environments" within which they are raised???

Well, I think that some people should never be allowed to be parents.....that's for God-damn sure!!!

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ronviers wrote: But we are not all dealt the same cards.

Very true......

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ronviers wrote: By government?

No.....although the sterilization of some might not be a bad idea at all.....got me thinking of that Orwell film.....

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StevieJ wrote: Bel.....really pisses me off!!!

I do?

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StevieJ wrote: Well, I think that some people should never be allowed to be parents.....that's for God-damn sure!!!

I agree, but then you have to think if people start policing who can and can not have children, next stage will be who should get married to whom, followed by genetic factors of only particular classes of people should have children and are allowed to breed.. Then you end up with a limited gene pool and probably back to square one because of interbreeding.

Aaah well so much for solving that problem

Yes I know what you mean Steve, and I think a fair few people think the same way.

Part from when the government or people decide these things like sterilisation of them kinds of people where does it stop?

Followed by what next? There are a few films that spring to mind, Soylent green, Equilibrium, Logan’s Run, Fahrenheit 451, Brazil ((1985) film), will stop there cause need sleep .

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ahimsa wrote: think it was in England and the cave was near the ocean I think.

Okay think it's the Atlantic Ocean http://www.freeworldmaps.net/europe/u...m/map.html

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ahimsa wrote: Well, whatever this virus is that I have it has renewed itself and I am as sick as I was when I first got it.

Hugs! Hope this bug leaves you be soon Ahimsa. I really hate long winded periods of being unwell , even more so when it's me that has the bug or whatever . You take care and get well soon! That's an order!!

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ronviers wrote: some kids are just born rotten - they torture animals and do mean things.

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StevieJ wrote: I don't agree.....I don't think anyone is born that way.....and it's all in how children are treated, what they are exposed/subjected to.....which makes them like that. For example, take a child born into an abusive family.....in all likelyhood, that child will grow up to be abusive themselves. Take the same child from the same abusive parents and put them into a loving, caring, family environment right after birth.....and it will be much more likely that child will grow up to be a loving, caring person who is not abusive. Just my opinion on it...

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StevieJ wrote: You guys know what I mean.....It would be nice if ingrained abusive, violent, criminal people were not allowed to carry on the same seed.....be allowed to raise children to be the same way. I also think that rapists should have their tallywhackers removed.....lucky for them that I'm not in charge...

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ahimsa wrote: I read something where they believe some behaviour is hereditary.

*** Activates his "Carl's Corner De-lurking Device" ***

Interesting discussion you have going on...

You guys/gals might want to read some Erich Fromm, specifically 'The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness'. Fromm's bottom line is that there exists no such thing as 'human nature', there exists only human behaviour, and human behaviour is always structured by the social environment a human being lives in.

To sum things up: Healthy societies breed healthy individuals, whereas sick societies breed sick individuals, and raise their youth to become afflicted with the same sickness.

Throwing people with so-called 'anti-social' behavioral patterns into prisons does not cure the underlying problems that cause people to develop these patterns in the first place. The introduction of technological 'solutions' to social problems (for example: children on ritalin, parents on prozac) in order to make people 'conform' to the toxic environment called 'normality' also does nothing to treat the root causes, but merely creates a new 'emerging market' for the pharmaceutical and 'security' industries to step in and harvest some hefty profits. Selling the lie that all this has to do with genetics creates another very profitable 'emerging market' for genetic screenings, engineering... and so on and so forth. Anyone see a pattern? I see fundamentally sick institutions perpetuating themselves!

In my opinion, one should examine whether 'anti-social' patterns are in fact a legitimate response to a fundamentally toxic social environment. If the answer is a positive, then there is only one solution: Create a society based on health, not one based on sickness. Toxic societies - like ours (a society based on hierarchical power structures of domination and exploitation, anyone?) - that undermine the value of all life, are ultimately doomed to fail.

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Beliria wrote: Hugs! Hope this bug leaves you be soon Ahimsa.

Yeah, hope you are feeling better soon!!!

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ronviers wrote: Imho, to be allowed to have children, all the men should be required to look like me, and all the women like this...

.....and you girls thought I was bad..... LOL....

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Crapadilla wrote: Fromm's bottom line is that there exists no such thing as 'human nature', there exists only human behaviour, and human behaviour is always structured by the social environment a human being lives in.

I go along with that.....children are formed by their environments.....not genetics.....

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Crapadilla wrote: In my opinion, one should examine whether 'anti-social' patterns are in fact a legitimate response to a fundamentally toxic social environment. If the answer is a positive, then there is only one solution: Create a society based on health, not one based on sickness. Toxic societies - like ours (a society based on hierarchical power structures of domination and exploitation, anyone?) - that undermine the value of all life, are ultimately doomed to fail.

I agree on trying to create society based on health.....and that our society is based on hierarchical power structures of domination and exploitation.....but I don't know if I would go so far as to say it is "doomed to failure".....probably more like "needs alot of work"......

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Crapadilla wrote: De-lurking Device

LOL....

I have an invisability sheild.....but Vlad controls it..... .....

No response? That means…
I win again!!!

Hey Ron this weeks class we are building stuff in Bryce.

A mug, bowl, planter, 3 styles of buildings, a swimming pool and table & chair's.

Next week is the final week and we need to create a day or night landscape using some of the skills we have learnt.

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Beliria wrote: Response to what?

If I told you, you might respond.

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Beliria wrote: building stuff in Bryce.

Will you build the objects using tools or pick them from existing objects? If you use tools, let me know which ones you use. Remember to post screencaps of the mesh as well as to finished objects so I can see your tessellation.

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Beliria wrote: create a day or night landscape

I hope you have time to really go all out on these last two assignments - especially the last one because you excel in landscapes. Maybe you can use a Terragen scene as a background for part of a Bryce scene – it would give you the opportunity to match lighting.

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ahimsa wrote: Check it out

he entire family were sentenced to death. The following day the twenty-seven men of the family met a fate similar to that of many of their victims, by having their legs and arms cut off and being left to slowly bleed to death, watched by their women.

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Crapadilla wrote: The relevance of cats and their poop escapes me.

I think you're being disingenuous.

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Crapadilla wrote: If an individual becomes destructive (i.e. 'anti-social'), that is because the social environment denies this individual the possibility of leading the balanced and healthy existence that he/she desires.

Are you saying there are no congenital birth defects that result in increased aggression or emotional detachment?

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Crapadilla wrote: I was -ing!

Sorry.

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Crapadilla wrote: is it rather the case that the environment that we have created results in the birth defects?

Ok, I accept that. But the upshot is that some kids are just born rotten.

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ronviers wrote: Will you build the objects using tools or pick them from existing objects? If you use tools, let me know which ones you use. Remember to post screencaps of the mesh as well as to finished objects so I can see your tessellation.

The Mug is built using the base object shapes of cylinders and torus's.

Finished image.. I added liquid to this and changed the texture to a different one than the one listed in the class to use.

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Beliria wrote: Has there ever been a period in history that can be classed as a healthy natural environment?

If you confine "history" to the duration of this camera's exposure and its field of view - then I would classify that as one of the first healthy and natural environments know to man.

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Crapadilla wrote: I'd wager your device does not function properly because you've installed some components the wrong way..

Maybe you need to turn it off every three hours.

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ronviers wrote: If you confine "history" to the duration of this camera's exposure and its field of view - then I would classify that as one of the first healthy and natural environments know to man.

I disagree

Its an artificial environment so there for it can't be classed as natural.
As to healthy that is debatable

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ronviers wrote: But I do miss Firefly.

Me too

And fringe finished the other night but its back on next year...
Least Heroes is still on and Sanctuary!