StevieJ
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I am looking for a hi-res digital still camera....don't want/need video.....just digital stills at high resolution for blowing up images to larger sizes without pixelation.....something like 24" X 36" prints. I want a hi-res full-frame digital camera at the lowest cost....camera body with something like an fxx-135 lens. Any info/suggestions for this would be much appreciated....
![]() I found this Canon EOS 50D DSLR w/ 18-135mm IS Lens for about $1000.00....seems pretty good....but it's not full-frame. The full-frame cameras take a big jump in price.....starting at about $2,500 - $3,000 and up for just the camera body without a lens..... http://www.huntsphotoandvideo.com/det...urer=Canon Steve
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Posted: October 2, 2010 11:12 am | ||||||||||||||
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Any of the newer cmos cameras will be good enough with the addition of a few software solutions. I use a Nikon d90 and I can go up to billboard resolution without pixelization, but like I said. that requires some software trickery.
My favorite tool to uprez a photo with no loss is http://www.photoacute.com/ The concept is to shoot your shots (on a tripod) with multiple shots same exposure or bracketed, 3 or more shots (the more the better). Then the software uses those shots and the slight differences between them to pull out more detail and double the resolution as well. I shot a street shot and the originals were sharp but you couldn't see fine details. After I ran the series through photoacute. I could read the names on the trashcans and the street numbers on the mailboxes. The software is great for many other things as well but I'll let you investigate that. In addition to photoacute there are other fractal image scaling tools that do an OK job of enlarging images and keeping the edges of details sharp (no pixelization). They do fuz it up a bit in the volumes. Full frame is great, but you'll always pay a premium for it. More important than the sensor resolution is the lens quality (fixed lenses are much sharper) and Noise levels with the sensor. (photoacute removes noise as well, but its better if its not there in the first place.) Hope that helps. For the money I'd go with a good Hi-rez CMOS mid range camera and spend a few bucks on photoacute. You'll want a camera that can shoot fast, something like 5 frames in less than a second would be preferable. colin Fizgig |
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Posted: October 2, 2010 2:29 pm | ||||||||||||||
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steve, cant help you with the full-frame, unless maybe you can find a bargain on an auction site like ebay or personals. it's basically a get what you pay for situation and the full-frames are going to be more expensive.
you could also look at digital camera backs if you have medium to large format film cameras. i'd love to have one for my old Canon F-1 but they just dont make camera backs for 35mm that i've found. but that camera had good glass and i hate that it's just collecting dust now. you also dont necessarily have to have a full-frame to get the kind of quality you're after, but you're going to have to look around and do some research and you might still end up paying more than a full-frame sensor. you can buy used hasselblads and put digital backs on them, but some of those backs go for more than i make in a year ![]() i have a friend over on retouchpro that uses a nikon d3 and he gets the most incredible macro shots i've seen in a long while. but, that one's something like $4500 and he's a professional photographer. you could also try some of the camera review sites and see what they're saying. also, for anyone wondering what the heck we're talking about, try this site: http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/1x.htm If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: October 2, 2010 9:51 pm | ||||||||||||||
KGtheway2B
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Why don't you just scan whatever it is you're trying to enlarge?
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Posted: October 3, 2010 1:08 am | ||||||||||||||
Carl
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more AF points is best, something else to consider and whether they are sensitive horizontal as well as vertical, to be able to manually select the points I find is really handy for creative photography
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Posted: October 3, 2010 2:02 am | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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This will definitely come in handy.... ![]()
what's CMOS??? Thanks for all the info, Colin.... ![]()
Yeah, been doing that....Megapixels is misleading.....it's the cpt points....
Need to compose/shoot originals at high res....
That the same as CPT points???
What model camera are you using??? Steve
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Posted: October 4, 2010 6:15 pm | ||||||||||||||
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CMOS is the sensor in the camera. The old style sensor was smaller and not as dense. CMOS is bigger and uses less power (which equals less noise in the shot). The cooler the chip the less noise you'll see in the shot. I've seen camera mods where people took their cameras apart to cool the Chips externally for space photography.
I digress. The difference between High range cameras and mid range cameras like the D90 aren't much. A nikon d300 and a nikon d90 use essentially the same cmos chip. The onboard graphics engine is different which is where all the extra features and some speed in shooting come in. Also the frame type makes up the difference in actual resolution. the D300 is fullframe, so you get the whole chip. The d90 is a smaller crop factor so you get a cropped frame, which cuts off some of the image at the edge of the sensor. This can be desirable under certain conditions where you can "widen" the apparent angle of a lens by using a cropped lens type on a full frame body. the Nikon 10.5mm wide angle lens actually shoots greater than 180 degrees field of view if you mount it on a d300 and saw off the hood with a hacksaw. I guess what I'm trying to say. You can get full frame performance from a good mid range cropped sensor camera, depending on the lenses you use and the quality of the graphics engine on the camera. Graphics engine equals: focus points frames per second or continuous shooting speed Dynamic range controls (ie being able to sense that an image has high contrast and changing the tone curve for the sensor to shoot a better dynamic range) lots of other cool stuff. Highend fullframe cameras have the full "unlocked" graphics engine as well as the onboard speed and memory to use it, full frame exposure, and a few bells and whistles that actually are "mechanically" different from Midrange cropped frame cameras. Otherwise the cameras use the same chips (most of the time) with the midrange cameras using cheaper components to make them a tad slower and cheaper. The actual onboard engine (the stuff that gets fixed with firmware updates) is sometimes dumbed down or has features disabled even though the camera could technically use them. I find www.dpreview.com does a good job of explaining the differences between models of cameras and competitors in their reviews. I wouldn't call the unbiased toward certain brands but there's not a lot of that going around anyway. Good luck with the purchase. colin Fizgig |
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Posted: October 5, 2010 12:57 am | ||||||||||||||
Kraellin
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in film photography it was all about the glass. in digital, glass is still key, but the sensors are also very important. a larger sensor in digital is like going to a medium or high format film camera. you just get better grain. but dont rule out glass, either. a great sensor with crappy glass is still going to give you crappy pictures. resolution is still important but it's not the whole ballgame as my $300 kodak 14 megapixel compared to a nikon d3's 14 megapixel will attest. they just aint in the da same boat ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: October 5, 2010 1:06 am | ||||||||||||||
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mines got a bit of age to it now, 40d canon and it's not full frame and it's only 10.1 megapixel but the cmos is good, lens good and I've been happy with the results. Nikon and Canon cameras are pretty close in quality. This site is pretty good with reviews cameralab |
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Posted: October 6, 2010 1:24 am | ||||||||||||||
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Canon 50D very good chose. check 60D http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consume...as/eos_60d
Canon have only one full frame camera (5D) and if you going for that levle wait till MK3 coming out (fall). Personal expirance I used Canon for long time Film, Digi. They very relible, except one of my 5d mk2 was in repear already two times ( very unusual) none others had any problems. Full frame camera provide better lighting, i use my for concerts. If your main target landscapes .. etc C or S size sensor will work fine. Nikon very good cameras, main different, Nikon have AF motor in camera (cheaper lenses but slower autofocus), Canon have motor in lenses. Canon lenses also prefform slightly better. But you wont see that different till you have L series lenses for Canon. |
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Posted: January 25, 2011 12:52 pm | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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Thanks Colin, Craig, and Carl....very useful info...
![]() ....and thanks Vladamir....I'll keep my eye out for the MK3....I'm not buying until next September right before I need it.....so that might work out... ![]() Steve
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Posted: January 27, 2011 11:27 am | ||||||||||||||
meyendlesss
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Noone here likes Pentax...?!?
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Posted: February 11, 2011 10:42 am | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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I'm picking this bad boy up in a couple weeks...the 24.6 megapixel, full frame Sony Apha A900 ($2700 body), Carl Zeiss 24-70mm f2.8 Zoom Lens ($1800), and new Sony HVL-F58AM flash unit ($500) to start... Although has some limitations that do not affect what I want to do, it seems to be the best bang-for-the buck for what I do want to do...with its closest image quality competitor being he Canon EOS 1D X that costs about 7k for the body... The Sony A900 is cheaper due to having no video and live view LCD...
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stor...onalImage1" ![]() Steve
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Posted: February 4, 2012 8:02 am | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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Back view with vertical battery control grip (getting) and new Sony flash (getting)...
This camera also has two Bionz processors...and a 35mm full frame Exmor CMOS image sensor that is approximately 2.35x larger than the APS-C sized sensors found in it's pro competitors... In other words, best quality resolution and detail before going to medium format digital for the really big bucks... ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 4, 2012 8:04 am | ||||||||||||||
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That is good looking camera, however I wont go that far to compare it with Canon 1Dx, it's closer to 5D mk2. But fall short in some cases and win in other.
http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS..._DSLR-A900 This is very short overview. Personal expirance from using 5D and Sony both. Sony is a lot more noisy in higher ISO. Maximum ISO less then canon. Autofocus with native canon L lenses very fast and accurate. Sony was playing a lot and have softer look. Canon have better body build, I drop my cameras few times in concerts, work like nothing happen, just few scratches. I don't dare drop sony, fill very fragile Canon also have 14bit color vs Sony 12bit, you can see the different in color accuracy. here is more comparissing: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/rev...mkii.shtml Sony have big pluses, Canon have pluses, depend on your area of use. 5Dmk2 is older camera, 5D mk3 is due out very soon, I would recommend wait and then compare. Don't take me wrong Sony is great camera and it very sexy looking. I have a lot of fun with it. I am using for professional event photography ( concerts ) and landscapes. |
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Posted: February 4, 2012 11:52 pm | ||||||||||||||
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Hey Stevie, that looks good! ![]() If you really get that (or any other full-frame) in the future, could you please post your impression in this post? Thanks in advance!
Great info and links, Vladimir! Thanks for sharing! "From the moment we are born, we start being filtered..." |
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Posted: February 5, 2012 1:59 pm | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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Thanks for the feedback...
![]() Found the Canon 1D sensor to be comparative to the Sony A900... The Canon 5D Mark II is a C-sized... Thought this review did a good job covering it...then go to the "results" tab for comparison to Canon and Nikon... http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Son...lens.shtml If I had the money, I would go for the Canon 1D...that is for sure...much better control optoins and selection of lenses... My only unanswered question is how weatherproof is the sony??? I know the canon and Nikon models art good... Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 6, 2012 11:35 am | ||||||||||||||
geekatplay
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Canon 5D mk2 is full size sensor.
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Posted: February 6, 2012 11:37 am | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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I must be reading things wrong then...or it was mistated in the reviews that I read...
![]() Edit: You are right... Just read that the new Cannon 5D Mark III is going to be 32 MP...that's quite a jump!!! http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canon-...2814.shtml Steve
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Posted: February 6, 2012 11:40 am | ||||||||||||||
geekatplay
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Most pro level cameras are dust and moist resitend, I woun't submerge in water with out proper casing
![]() If camera can handle it doesn mean you should do it ![]() |
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Posted: February 6, 2012 12:01 pm | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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Thanks... Reason being that I'm planning to shoot from my kayak alot...
I just talked to a guy that has both the Cannon and the Sony...and he swears by the sony...actually said that he is in love with it...because of the "feel" of the camera, location of controls, and screen navagation... He works for Hunt's Camera here in Massachusetts...and says that the Cannon 5D Mark III is going to announce release within a few days...and that Sony is going to also announce new enhanced release of the A900... Guess there is quite a little digital camera war going on in this range... Also found out a little known fact that Sony makes all the sensors for Nikon...interesting... Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 6, 2012 1:14 pm | ||||||||||||||
geekatplay
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In other case, why spend this money if yo dont need all that complexity, here is my pocket backup camera.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product...amera.html |
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Posted: February 6, 2012 1:19 pm | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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I need that resolution and detail for enlarged fine art works... I have a pocket cybershot for everything else...
![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 6, 2012 1:23 pm | ||||||||||||||
StevieJ
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Jesus...just found out that the Sony A900 is discontinued...with Sony, Canon, and Nikon all coming out with 36 mp full-frame cameras in the same price range... Nikon just announced their D800 yesterday...Canon 5D Mark III on the way...but I'm going to wait for the Sony release...seems that Sony is planning a "coup de tat" on Canon and Nikon...and the sony ziess lenses are already corrected for full-frame...where Canon and Nikon have some work to do in converting their lenses to take full advantage of Full frame...
Steve
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