The FF HDR environs in surround sound.

It's a pity that the SWF doesn't allow to adjust the exposure on the fly, it would be fun to tweak it in realtime on a spherical panorama.

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Sphinx. wrote: Ah interesting.. is the spring image the correct one? I thought it was from some field or something

----That's the only one I wouldn't bet all my money on. But tell ya what, go look, and see if you can find the real "Spring" one for sure ha-ha

jffe

very cool, the picture look different from what I expect from seeing them curved on the Hdr sphere

Cool, jffe!!! I'm hoping that FF gives full longitudinal control over them like that.....would make those HDRI images much more useful.....

thanks, jffe.

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StevieJ wrote: I'm hoping that FF gives full longitudinal control over them like that.....would make those HDRI images much more useful.....

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jffe wrote: Yeah, I dunno why they didn't from the start, but then I'm not a professional coder person, so perhaps there are limitations. But yeah, in V2 would be cool.

OnyxMaster stated somewhere that they were going to do this.....but I don't know if it will be in V2 or not.....

oh my lord, jffe, a 1500 x 750 exr? what are you, masochistic or something?

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Kraellin wrote: oh my lord, jffe, a 1500 x 750 exr? what are you, masochistic or something?

----That's 1/4 size of the ones built into FF, or at least from their original 3000 X 1500 size. And yeah, I knew it would take a while, but 400 X 200 ones (my usual test size) only take maybe 40-60 minutes, so I thought maybe 4-6 hours on the 1500 X 750 ones ha-ha, obviously I was a bit off 12 hours and counting later.

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StevieJ wrote: along with full paremeter control over lighting, more HDRIs, merge lighting controls with filter controls option, etc, etc, etc.....

----I dunno about all that, but you might check out Geneteica 3 since it's 1) out now, and 2) offers a LOT of HDRI features from the specs.

jffe

ah, i didnt even know the FF ones were 3000 x 1500.

so, is it done yet, jffe, or are you still baking?

so, are they worth it, jffe? are they good enough to warrant the time spent?

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Kraellin wrote: so, are they worth it, jffe? are they good enough to warrant the time spent?

----Kind of, since most of the "time spent", was spent sleeping anyways ha-ha. The only issue I kind of had was concern about melting my 'puter ha-ha, but since it's been getting down to freezing or below at night these days, I'm not so worried about it now.
----Other than that, tough to say, since the colors aren't much different really (unless you bought some that did have red, or other shades of blue/green, or even purple etc.). I am able to get some more subtle shades of gold/brass now though. Depending on what you're rendering (for work/projects) and at what size, 750 X 375 might offer just as much really, and those only take like 2 hours or so to import (ie = if you don't need like real life picture perfect chrome reflections, and/or if you tend to boost the reflection blur internally anyways).

jffe

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StevieJ wrote: I'm hoping that FF gives full longitudinal control over them

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Vladimir Golovin wrote: Yes, this is planned.

Excellent!!!

well, i'm kinda curious exactly what it is that is done when making the .exr into an environment. i mean, what is it that takes so long?

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HDRI artifacts

eh? what are those?

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StevieJ wrote: Having longitudinal/vertical control of the lighting sphere would allow you to turn it up into the sky for a "cleaner" HDR image

----You run the risk of well, really boring lighting that way. Pretty much defeats the purpose of using real images really, might as well just fake it with some highlights like Crapa did in that one marbles or whatever filter. I can see wanting to *tame* it some, but I'm pretty sure you'll be disappointed if you just aim it at the sky and get a pinprick of light on the very edge of your glass/metal. Have you tried just messing with the internals, especially the Reflection Blur ? Once that's cranked past 50 or 75, you can't really see anything reflected, just some vague colors really, no "artifacts" in any real sense (unless yer super picky ha-ha, in which case HDRI lighting using real world pictures is simply not what you want, and you should probably go buy or make some simple light glare ones). Anyways, just trying to be helpful based on what I've heard you say before, and now, about the FF lighting.

jffe

Well, not totally get rid of all of it......but lowering the horizon on them definitely cleans them up.......especially with glass. I don't like using reflection blur because it has a "bleaching out" effect that I don't like.....

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Kraellin wrote: thanks, steve.

Yer welcome.....

Yeah, it is kinda like lowering the contrast while increasing gamma levels......not exactly sure what it is.....but I know that I don't like using it.....takes away from the "richness"......