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It seems that Google and Intel have been investigating about Quantum computer chips to make even faster computers to be able to go over the limitaion of actual chips technology and they are now showing it for real, Intel showed already their prototype chip, and here is a news fr om Google that shows their new quantum chip that has 72 Qubits!!

Google Quantum processor

See here explained what is the difference of a quantum processor

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With the quantum computing race heating up between Google, IBM and Intel, it feels like we're hurtling towards quantum supremacy, that milestone when a quantum computer outperforms a classical one for the first time. Bringing us ever closer, Google has now unveiled Bristlecone, a new quantum computer chip with the record-setting power of 72 quantum bits (qubits).

Traditional computers perform their calculations in binary, so every bit of data is represented as either a zero or a one. Thanks to the quirky science that is quantum mechanics, a qubit can be in a superposition of both, effectively representing both a zero and a one at the same time. That means the power of a quantum computing system scales exponentially – two qubits can represent four states at once (00, 01, 10 and 11), three qubits represent eight, and so on.

As a result, quantum computers are great at performing simultaneous operations, processing all of these states at the same time wh ere classic computers would have to run through each in turn.


If I understand correctly it is supposed that this quantum computers are going to replace the actual supercomputers, that are really very expensive, so maybe and probably the price will be very high, at least at the beginning, and maybe it will not be affordable for domestic computer, only for very big and rich companies, although I do not have yet enough information to know about this

Here is a news from five days ago in march 2018

Cnet article about Google quantum computers

Intel showed recently their quantum chips shown here

news about Intel quantum chips
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chrisd
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The cooling requirement is a barrier in making these affordable and fit in a small package. Unless the quantum state can be maintained at a much higher temperature, its unlikely that a quantum computer as we know it now will be a consumer device.

Scientists were successful in creating organic lasers based on jellyfish proteins so its not a huge stretch to think that there could be a biochemical solution in this case as well.

As long as it doesn't smell like low tide ...
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It's good to keep in mind that quantum computing is quite different from classical computing. It's potentially good for solving specific problems, but can't be used for general computing at the moment - and most likely won't replace current (super)computers any time soon.

As far as I understand, a 72 qubit computer can only output 72 bits of information. For comparison, a 600x600 image is 2,880,000 bits of information. The output of a quantum computer is also probabilistic, so it has to be run multiple times for error correction. Lots of unknowns and engineering problems still to solve.

Anyway, very interesting technology. Let's hope we can make it useful.
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As far as I understand, a 72 qubit computer can only output 72 bits of information


As far as I understand it according to the text, the output is not 72 bit, what is told is that classic computer can only process 1 bit at once (or 2 bits if you use hyperthread) and a quantum computer can process in this case 72 qubits at once, so in therory I think it should be 72 times faster than a single core chip classic computer, as it seems that 1 qubit is equivalent to 1 bit (maybe this is wrong)

So a quantum computer can process 72 qubits at once, and a classic computer 1 or 2 bits, although now there is the multicores chips, so each core can process 1 or 2 bits at once, and if you have for example 64 cores then you would be able to process 64 or 128 bits at once.

Maybe I am confusing things and is not this way, and really you can not probably compares qbits to bits so easily, sorry that know very little about quantum computing
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SpaceRay
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just found this but have no time to read it yet, it looks useful and interesting to explain how quantum computing works

How quantum computing works
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Modern processors have billions of transistors, running at billions of times per second (that's a lot of bits). A quantum computer basically runs only once, but can potentially have a huge number of states simultaneously (qubits in superpositon).

A 72 qubit computer can have 2^72 states, but this state cannot be read directly - the superposition has to collapse into a 72 bit output. So you can basically only ask one question and the answer has to fit into 72 bits. This can still be useful, if the question is really hard for classical computers smile:)
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Here is a quote from extremetech.com:

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That’s the point at which a quantum computer can perform a well-defined calculation faster than a digital supercomputer. Past estimates have suggested you’d need at least 50 qubits at low decoherence to accomplish that feat, so Google could well be within striking distance.


"Decoherence" is the main problem with quantum computing:

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One of the greatest challenges in making a quantum computer viable is countering so-called quantum decoherence. Interference from the environment causes incorrect calculations and a higher error rate than any standard digital computer.


So getting rates over 50 qubits seems to be the threshold Google and others are shooting for to beat the best supercomputers. Probably in the next decade we will see these chips, probably extraordinarily expensive at first (and perhaps requiring a refrigerator to cool them), but given time...
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The_Funktasm
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What is really interesting to think of is that in the past, what has been called a supercomputer has become more or less useless and highly outdated nowadays. That will only continue as it has, so at some point we can look at this news and laugh because we remember this being a big deal once, and low end computers will resemble an upgrade to the current cutting edge.
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Skybase
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So is the render done or not done until I observe it? lol
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So is the render done or not done until I observe it? lol

Yes smile;)
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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So is the render done or not done until I observe it? lol


Very good smile:D

This remember me that then quantum computer is like the Schrodinger's cat, it can be both alive or death, until you open the box and observe it, and in this case until until you observe the result of the computer

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To explain the similarity from the quantum and the cat is explained here from university of Yale

In quantum computing, doubling down on Schrödinger’s cat

And searching for more related things I have found 52 pages Slideshare presentation has many possible interesting questions and answers about this topic and seems to explain more about this to understand it better in some way

Down the Quantum Rabbit hole

For the Schrodinger's cat, there is an alternative way to see if the cat is alive or not without opening the box, as shown below, but of course this system is not good and can not be done with the computer or with the data smile;) smile:D

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As I supossed right now is available BUT at an incredibly high price and is also a huge computer taking much space.

Do you have 15 MILLION $ to buy one? smile;) smile:D

but the money to buy is NOT the main problem, because the problem of course is that NONE of the available OS is compatible with quantum way of doing things, and so none of the compatible software will work in any quantum computer, so really it would be useless to buy a quantum computer for personal use, as there is NO software available for it, there is only custom scientific and specific software for custom tasks. You can not install Windows or MacOS and use FF smile;) smile:D

D-Wave is now shipping its new $15 million, 10-foot tall quantum computerp

Here is what this D-Wave quantum computer works now with its own OS

Is it possible to run Linux on a quantum computer in the future?

so the question really is

When Will Quantum Computers Be Consumer Products?

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Andrew Dzurak, Professor in Nanoelectronics at University of New South Wales, said in an interview with CIO that he hopes quantum computers will be able to advance scientific research, for example, by simulating what potential drugs would do in the human body. However, Dzurak said he expects it will take 20 years for quantum computers to be useful enough for that kind of application.
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