For Rod_D_How do you make the PHF Photofonts ?

The key is going to be using larger high res images.The code can be changed (edited to reflect larger sizes), if that's what you want.
I probably will add a couple different phf files that reflect that range in image size.Not everyone will understand or want to mess with editing code so i will write one for high res (2000x2000), and the original for 1000x1000 pixel glyphs.

The one i am working on now uses 1000x1000 but only 500x700 pixel area within the xml code.Because that is all i need to show the entire glyph.500 wide by 700 high.

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<glyph id="A">    <image id="v0" type="photo">     <shape system="images/size_test/Candy_Canes/A.png">      <ppm int="480" />      <bbox x="20" y="-5" width="500" height="700" /> <--- this reflects img size      <base x="-20" y="500" />      <delta x="444" y="0" />     </shape>    </image>   </glyph>

Photofont Start will just re-size any image you use to reflect 480 max pixels.

The higher the image res the better the font is going to look at re-size.

I have not studied all the parameters of the code yet.I can not change what the plugin does i do not have the C code to re-compile it after changing it.

Perhaps the creator can re-compile it to except high res images.Then again that is probably why it's free. ... You can get some nice results with 480 pixel sizes though.

I am not sure if they make a better plugin or not.If they do it probably isn't free.

I found this today when i sat down to finish up on the installer.
http://www.slanted.de/node/1361

This is quite amazing.Each image is taken of the sky between buildings while looking up. A few are warped in Photo Shop i believe but most are all natural, and not edited except for re-size.

Thank you very much!

Doesn't look too awful bad on a white background.
This is at size 120 by the way.

Thanks very much BUT I am sorry that I may be silly and clumsy, but I have not understood the instructions made by Rod_D.

As I see it, you NEED to use GIMP to make the photofonts, and as I have never used GIMP, I am a little lost.

Photoshop ALSO can export to layers, so if I convert the XCF to PSD could I use it inside Photoshop and make the same thing ?

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Well that's that i guess.

SpaceRay, basically all you have to do now is put all the letters inside the the folder with the PHF file.
Once you install the Photofont Start plugin it creates a folder where your photosonts will be stored. (I haven't tested it on Win7 yet, but in WinXP it's in My Documents\Photofonts). Put the PHF file Rod made in that folder. Also create a new folder in there, and name it "images".
Now every font you want to use you just put inside the images folder. If you want to use another font, replace the contents of images folder.

You don't have to change the PHF or create a new one, just replace the images.

One question Rod - When I make the glyphs, what size are they supposed to be (in pixels)?

SpaceRay for those ICE images you created do this...
Open them all in your graphics editor as layers.
Resize them all at one time to 640 high x 480 wide.
Now save each layer as a separate PNG image.
They must be named according to what they are
A.png
B.png
C.png
D.png
exclam.png
period.png
question.png
comma.png ... and so forth
small letters if you make any will go in the nonCaps folder and be named
a.png
b.png
c.png
and so forth

Open the PSPPI-README and look at the image id map i placed at the bottom each id is what the image name HAS to be for the code to see the glyph.

IMAGE NAME GUIDE - MAP ID IS ALSO IMAGE NAME - just add the png extension.
For instance
map id="A" means this images name is A.png (it IS case sensitive!)
map id="bracketright" means this images name is bracketright.png

<map id="A" unc="65" />
<map id="B" unc="66" />
<map id="C" unc="67" />
<map id="D" unc="68" />
<map id="E" unc="69" />
<map id="F" unc="70" />
<map id="G" unc="71" />
<map id="H" unc="72" />
<map id="I" unc="73" />
<map id="J" unc="74" />
<map id="K" unc="75" />
<map id="L" unc="76" />
<map id="M" unc="77" />
<map id="N" unc="78" />
<map id="O" unc="79" />
<map id="P" unc="80" />
<map id="Q" unc="81" />
<map id="R" unc="82" />
<map id="S" unc="83" />
<map id="T" unc="84" />
<map id="U" unc="85" />
<map id="V" unc="86" />
<map id="W" unc="87" />
<map id="X" unc="88" />
<map id="Y" unc="89" />
<map id="Z" unc="90" />
<map id="a" unc="97" />
<map id="ampersand" unc="38" />
<map id="asterisk" unc="42" />
<map id="at" unc="64" />
<map id="b" unc="98" />
<map id="braceleft" unc="123" />
<map id="braceright" unc="125" />
<map id="bracketleft" unc="91" />
<map id="bracketright" unc="93" />
<map id="c" unc="99" />
<map id="colon" unc="58" />
<map id="comma" unc="44" />
<map id="d" unc="100" />
<map id="degree" unc="176" />
<map id="dollar" unc="36" />
<map id="e" unc="101" />
<map id="eight" unc="56" />
<map id="equal" unc="61" />
<map id="exclam" unc="33" />
<map id="f" unc="102" />
<map id="five" unc="53" />
<map id="four" unc="52" />
<map id="g" unc="103" />
<map id="greater" unc="62" />
<map id="h" unc="104" />
<map id="hyphen" unc="45" />
<map id="i" unc="105" />
<map id="j" unc="106" />
<map id="k" unc="107" />
<map id="l" unc="108" />
<map id="less" unc="60" />
<map id="m" unc="109" />
<map id="multiply" unc="215" />
<map id="n" unc="110" />
<map id="numbersign" unc="35" />
<map id="nine" unc="57" />
<map id="o" unc="111" />
<map id="one" unc="49" />
<map id="p" unc="112" />
<map id="parenleft" unc="40" />
<map id="parenright" unc="41" />
<map id="percent" unc="37" />
<map id="period" unc="46" />
<map id="plus" unc="43" />
<map id="q" unc="113" />
<map id="question" unc="63" />
<map id="quoteleft" unc="8216" />
<map id="quoteright" unc="8217" />
<map id="quotesingle" unc="39" />
<map id="r" unc="114" />
<map id="s" unc="115" />
<map id="semicolon" unc="59" />
<map id="seven" unc="55" />
<map id="six" unc="54" />
<map id="slash" unc="47" />
<map id="space" unc="32" />
<map id="t" unc="116" />
<map id="three" unc="51" />
<map id="two" unc="50" />
<map id="u" unc="117" />
<map id="v" unc="118" />
<map id="w" unc="119" />
<map id="x" unc="120" />
<map id="y" unc="121" />
<map id="z" unc="122" />
<map id="zero" unc="48" />

Hope that helps you more.

No problem SpaceRay.The link will always be in the first part of the topic.
Every time i release a newer version i will change the link to reflect it.
http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php...827#p47462

A direct link to the file is here
http://www.gimpchat.com/download/file.php?id=4739

I did it this way so folks will download everything needed to run the fonts
A 8bf compatible graphics program
The Photofont Start Plugin

By the way i am trying to re-write another PhotoFont 8bf Plugin to use bigger glyph sizes.

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Rod_D wrote No problem SpaceRay.The link will always be in the first part of the topic. Every time i release a newer version i will change the link to reflect it.

Sorry is true, I did not go to the first post. Thanks.

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Morgantao wrote: How do you rewrite an 8bf plugin!?

I think that if you know how to program a plugin, you will also be able to rewrite one that is already available. Although if it is commercial you could problems with the company and the copyright, but probably as this is a FREE plugin and is not done for earning money it could be possible if you know what to do and how to do it.

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How do you rewrite an 8bf plugin!?

I probably should have worded that a little differently.

What i meant was i am attempting to create my own that excepts bigger sizes.
Most 8bf's are written in FF+ and compiled.

Well I also do not know nothing about FF+ (only FF ) but looking in google I found this in this PDF document

http://www.filtermeister.com/docs/gettings.pdf

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FF+ (FF plus) language, which is a superset of the Adobe Filter Factory (FF) language. FF+ is a subset of the C language,with extensions that include: - Additional built-in variables and functions for image processing and filter design - Additional syntax to describe the design of the User Interface - Predefined event handlers, which are special purpose functions for processing specific filter events and User Interface actions

ALSO found this link Programming Photoshop Plugins

Here is included also Filter Forge !!

Please, Is there any news or update to this and a be available an easier way to than the one you have given above ?

What will do the filter that you are coding with Filtermeister ?
How will it work ?

Thanks

Thanks very much for your answer Rod_D

Please, take your time, and do it WHEN YOU CAN, I am not in any way in a hurry or desperate at all to get this, and if you are busy do not do it unless you want to and can.

Thanks to you for making this and working out a way to make this possible.

Hello Rod_D how is it going ? How are you ?

I hope and wish that you are well and making interesting things.

I have seen that the thread of the Photofont in the Gimpchat has not been updated since March.

And there is still NO news from the Bitfonter company that told me that they were going to release a cut down much cheaper ONLINE version of the bitfonter software.

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Rod_D wrote: Not enough interest in bitmap Webfonts right now

Webfonts? Sorry but webfonts ? It was going to be available a online tool to make Photofonts in the same way that is possible now with Bitfonter, I mean is the same software, only that instead of buying the very expensive one, you only pay a small part for using it online when you want and need.

I have seen that there are two other companies that are already available and sucessfull offering thousands of fonts that are converted through their plugin to webfonts to be used on the server of your website. Sorry that I do not remember now the name of these companies. BUT this are only PLAIN one color fonts, the same as used by the System fonts in Windows or MacOS.

8BF Design

Good news and seems interesting. I will see it

Thanks