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Kraellin
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well, besides the prof grads and kaleids, there are a couple refractions in there smile;)
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Kraellin
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man, this 2048 x 2048 at 25 anti-aliasing passes is taking a loooooooooooong time! it's still rendering **yawn**.
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LOL..... I hate when that happens..... smile;) smile:D

I would think that you could get that "black glass" effect by putting it on a surface result.....but I would think that you would have to find a way to loose the refractions.....or prepare to wait for a long long time..... smile;) smile:)
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Kraellin
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yeah, i probably could. but that's not even the one i'm rendering right now. it's a multiple pattern filter, meaning, there are 8 different legs to this thing all run into a switch. the black glass one has a refraction. the one i'm rendering now, i'm not sure.

it's not a big deal, however. it's just something i decided to see if i could get more detail by raising the image size and the anti-aliasing. so far, results are pretty good.

you know when sometimes in doing a high detail filter and anti-aliasing is turned off and you're working with 600 x 600 and things are a bit fuzzy? well, that's what i'm seeing if i can correct. i had always assumed that this would be the case, but decided that i'd better actually check and see.

from what i can tell so far, raising the image size is making the most difference. there's just not enough resolution at 600 x 600 for some of these patterns. you just have to have more dots per inch in those cases. the anti-aliasing is somewhat secondary...somewhat.
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Kraellin
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done! one hour, 21 minutes, six seconds. lol. but it looks good smile:)
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Kraellin
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ok, let's show a comparison here. this first is with anti-aliasing turned off. i had to resize the image down from 2048 to 1024 in order to reach a compressed jpg size under 250k. lol. in fact, all of these had to be resized to 1024 x 1024 for the same reason.

one interesting fact about the resizing; the 25 anti-aliasing image compressed with less compressed ratio than the others, this being due to a cleaner image, i assume.

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Kraellin
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that last one took just a little over three minutes. this one took a bit over 17 minutes. this is with five passes of anti-aliasing.

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Kraellin
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and this is the last one. this is with 25 passes of anti-aliasing. this one took over an hour and 15 minutes to render out.

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Kraellin
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it's a little hard to see the differences in these due to having to resize and then compress heavily, but at full size and full resolution, you can see a distinct difference.

again, the biggest gain comes with using a bigger image size when rendering, not with the anti-aliasing. in some cases, the anti-aliasing is going to somewhat blur the design due to how anti-aliasing works.

but try it out for yourselves smile;)
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Much smoother and much less noisy..... smile8)

Unbelievable amount of details and gradation in this..... smile8)
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Kraellin
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oh, i shld also mention that ALL images were rendered with 'all pixels' turned on in the anti-aliasing and not the 'just edges' setting. that would make a difference in the blurryness, i'm pretty sure.
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Kraellin
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yeah, it makes a big difference, steve. i'm going to have to go back and look at some of my old pattern filters and try them this way. i had some quite a while ago that i really liked but never really upsized them to bring out the detail.

hehe, i'm trying one at 3072 x 3072 now, but with 'edges only' anti-aliasing turned on.
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Kraellin
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ok, i've stepped up to 3072 x 3072 with no anti-aliasing (aa from here on in). the render time was something like five minutes and something. not too bad smile:) again, i had to cut the image size in half and compress to 73%...uhg. but, i think you'll be able to see the difference.

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Kraellin
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lol. i think i almost broke the forums. when i hit the upload on this one, everything got reeeeeeaaal slow here on the forums. i wonder if the image size, 1536 x 1536 did this?
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Kraellin
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ok, this is the last one i'm going to do on this. this is 3072 x 3072, aa at five passes. i'd love to show you this one at full size and no compression. it's really quite good, but we'll have to settle for what we've got. again, because this is a cleaner image, the compression didnt have to be quite as severe, another good reason to render with some aa turned on.

now let's see if i nearly break the forums again when i try to upload this smile;)

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Kraellin
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ok, i just had to show this. this is the center of the middle rosette at no compression, no resizing, from the 3072 x 3072 and 5 pass aa.

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I really like that last one best of all.....as the full result..... smile8)

Any way to tighten up kaleidoscope to get that??? smile;) smile:)
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Kraellin
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if by 'tighten up' you mean could i extract just that part and make a filter of just that part or do something to the kaleidoscope component to get a render of just that part.... uhm, no. at least, not per se. it could be done, though, but not by tweaking the kaleid. you'd have to mask out the rest of the image and then use one of the zoom snippets to enlarge just the un-masked portion. i believe that would do it. so, a frame component and a zoom snippet and it shld work.
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StevieJ
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No, use kaleidoscope to just produce the center star that you cropped from the middle of it.....which I personally think looks much better than the first "busy" designs.....but that's just me..... smile;) smile:)
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These are interesting, they have an etching feel to them untill you blow them up and realize that they have tone [ I know that was a pretty pointless observation smile:D ] what was the base before you kaleidy them, just curious smile;)
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Kraellin
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steve, no way in hell! smile:D lol. you're familiar with kaleids. you want me to reproduce one very tiny detail from one kaleid as the whole of another kaleid? you are kidding, right? smile;) get off yer lazy butt and do the crop! i aint gonna try to reproduce that 'star' as a single effect smile:D lol.

then again... never say never smile:)
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Kraellin
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must have scared steve off with that last post smile;)

ok, been working on something else. may or may not publish this one, depending on what the new eula says. the name of this filter is 'storm clouds'. it can produce a variety of cloud/sky effects but does take some user knowledge. just hitting randomize wont do it every time. so, this is not really a basic filter with one fixed set of effects, it's a creative filter (which i prefer), and requires some creative input and knowledge of the controls.

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Kraellin
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#2

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#3 this started out with just three basic colors, black, white and a dark blue. so, part of the learning curve on this one is to adjust colors to make a decent image.

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Kraellin
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#4 as you can see from this one, it's possible to get some somewhat subtle changes through various controls.

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Kraellin
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#5 and again, changes, but not huge.

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Kraellin
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#6 or, change up parts with some more color.

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Kraellin
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#7 there is one anomoly, or at least i consider it one, along the edges. in this case, the vertical edges. it is due to a noise distortion and the way it works. i sincerely wish the noise distortion had some more options, like wrap-around-edges or dont wrap. this is what's causing the 'anomoly' in this one.

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Kraellin
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#8 i can effectively get rid of it by changing the color control where it shows up, but that also makes other changes in the image i may not want to change.

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get off yer lazy butt and do the crop!

Never!!! smile;) smile:D LOL.....

It's just my humble opinion that the single star might achieve HU much faster..... smile;) smile:D

Excellent clouds!!! #1, 5, 6, 7 are my favorites!!! Great idea!!! smile:) smile:) smile:)
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These sky ones are excellent, the layering of clouds gives depth and realism better than any of the cloud generators in the library smile:)
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It's just my humble opinion that the single star might achieve HU much faster.....


in all honesty, if i could do it, i would smile:)

and thank you, steve smile:) i think #1 is my favorite so far.

and thank you, carl smile:) i was actually working on a different filter and this popped up somewhere along the line and i liked it better than what i was working on and sidetracked myself smile:)
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in all honesty, if i could do it, i would

Obviously I don't know how you have this set up.....but wouldn't increasing the pattern size give you the center star??? Don't get me wrong, I really like the detailed concept of what you have created with this..... smile:)

Those clouds are REALLY REALLY REALLY good!!! My only concern would be in submitting them.....because many would immediately copy and resell the straight results in texture packs.....and I don't know how you are going to feel about that???

If you have a problem with that happening, I would suggest holding off on submitting them until the new EULA goes into place.....because I guarrantee you that the resellers would gobble this one up...... smile;) smile:)
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Kraellin
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hi steve,

actually, i may have just figured out a way to do the star without altering any of the kaleid stuff. i've borrowed a snippet from uberzev in the clouds filter and after reading this thread again, i think i could adapt the same snippet to the patterned one with the star, so, i may just be able to do it smile;) i'll keep you posted.

and thank you on the clouds smile:) yes, i'm holding off for now. i DO wish vlad would put some hurry on finishing that eula because i was thinking the same thing as you.

oh, and i've been toying with some more parts for the clouds. i'll show you some results soon smile;)
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Kraellin
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#9

ok, here's an example of the new addition to the storm clouds filter:

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StevieJ
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Cool!!! smile8)

I was just thinking that you could create all kinds of neat variant filters from this concept.....sunsets, thunderheads, lightning (difficult, but can be done), rainbows, light rays through the clouds, etc. etc. etc...... smile:devil:
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Kraellin
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hehe, yup. we're thinkin on the same wavelength smile:)

oh, and hang on, just about done rendering the 'fix' on the pattern filter smile;)
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jffe
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Some very very nice clouds/skies. smile:)

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Kraellin
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ok, got it! hehe, i'm such a clever boy... at times smile;)

i borrowed uberzev's 'zooom' snippet and modified it a bit. works to do just what you wanted in this filter! so, here's your star, without modification of any preset or anything else but just adding the zoom feature. now you can zoom in on the pattern and get those close ups. this was done at 1024 x 1024, 5 pass anti-alias. i'll have to add an offset so that you can zoom in on any part of the image, too.

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thanks, jffe smile:)
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ok, added in the offset and tried another preset with zoom and offset. i'm liking this filter more now smile:)

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Ah, very nice, Craig!!! smile8)
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thanks, steve smile:)

with a larger starting image, i could probably get even more detail, like with the 3072 x 3072, but i'm tired of waiting for the renders smile:)
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Kraellin
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speaking of rainbows smile;)

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Excellent!!! I think you've discovered a whole new line of guarranteed HU filters..... smile:devil:
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