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StevieJ
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Carl and CF, those samples are really cool!!! I'm going to have to find some 3D glasses somewhere to get the full effect
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Posted: August 15, 2007 10:01 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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CF what have you tweaked in your new version
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Posted: August 16, 2007 4:16 am | ||||||||||
Carl
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It will be worth the effort ![]() |
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Posted: August 21, 2007 8:23 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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you gonna share what you're doing new? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 22, 2007 2:27 pm | ||||||||||
Carl
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Still holding breath
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Posted: August 29, 2007 8:54 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Sorry for the delay in posts I have still been pretty busy. The new stuff in this version is mostly the height map. Kinda works as a mask and height. But still tweaking a bit on it. Hopefully I'll have it done soon.
It will most likly be the Advanced Version ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: September 1, 2007 9:51 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Had some time so here is this version so far. Still need some tweaks here and there. Also renaming of some of the controls. Maybe more tweaking of the mask is in order also...
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Posted: September 12, 2007 3:54 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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oh man, you are really getting some depth on this. i had another filter loaded up when i downloaded yours and as your default erased the previous filter's default, it was like taking a canvas off the top of a well piece by piece. really nice, CF!
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: September 12, 2007 4:10 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Just when you thought I was done with this..hehe
![]() Starting to slowly get back into working on this...I received my ChromaDepth glasses today and started some experimenting with that method...If anyone has these type here is a sample texture..You can only see the depth with the ChromaDepth glasses thou... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 11:10 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Here is the link that Carl posted a few posts back..
http://www.chromatek.com/
I'll eventually finish the advanced version of the anaglyph... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 11:14 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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bummer! dont have that type of glasses
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 11:36 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Sent you a message.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 11:49 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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cool. got it
![]() you've got mail! ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 12:26 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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I like getting mail...Not spam, unless it comes with eggs.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 12:54 pm | ||||||||||
StevieJ
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Ah, the method to your continued madness.....
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"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 9, 2008 2:17 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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CF, i got the glasses. thank you!
![]() these things are worse for crossing your eyes than the normal 3d glasses. i really cant wear them very long at all. but, they do really add some depth on those special images. that one website, their background, wow. it looks like they operate strictly on an rgb basis, with reds being the foregrounds, greens the middle, and blues the furthest away. interesting method. but, like i said, they really do cross my eyes O.O If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 1:38 pm | ||||||||||
Carl
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Somehow I had been unsubsribed from this thread and hadn't noticed you been posting again
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they work beautifully on printed material [ with the right balance ] I prefer it to rear illumination ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 10:02 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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The 3d method or the spam and eggs.. ![]() ![]()
Cool glad you got them.. ![]() ![]() Yea they do hurt the eyes quicker than the red and blue glasses...But it might have something to do with the brightness of the monitor interfering with the effect also..But that is just a guess have not really experimenting with that yet... Their website does look much better now also... ![]()
Well if you have some of these Chromadepth glasses carl some of your filters work great with them already...There are also others that are in the library that also work great with them....
Have not seen any printed images with this 3d method..Just stuff on the web...But now I can print my own and check it out... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 22, 2008 7:10 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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i looked at your chromadepth test pic above. the black really stands out, like as if 4 to 6 inches or so out from my monitor. that surprised me a bit, since on that website, it was the reds that seemed to stand out most. i think i feel another headache coming on
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 23, 2008 10:10 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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i just went looking through some of your earlier anaglyph filters, CF. take a look at your filter named 'Another Anaglyph Variation V2' and look at it using the chromadepth glasses. notice the rope coming out of the life preserver down at the bottom. quite interesting
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 23, 2008 10:52 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok, this is getting interesting again
![]() ok, i just turned the anti-aliasing off and reset the default preset to that. makes it a bit faster. also notice the controls i added at the bottom of yours. the last 3 dont seem to do much, but the top 3 will have an effect. Another Anaglyph Variation v2 pCFm rev 2.ffxml If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 23, 2008 11:06 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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hmmmm
![]() ![]() Heres another different filter with the colors used for the depth....This is only a test.. ![]() Chroma Test.ffxml Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 27, 2008 7:18 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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well, notice the rest of the red as well. you may have to leave the glasses on a bit to see the whole red effect.
tried your chroma test. that first preset with the blue really sinks down, doesnt it ![]() ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 28, 2008 1:18 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Posted: May 1, 2008 8:43 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Heres the filter to test...
![]() Still a bit of tweaking to go on it yet.... ![]() ChromaDepth 3D Creations 2.ffxml Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: May 1, 2008 8:43 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: May 1, 2008 9:04 pm | ||||||||||
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----Oh wow, my vision = worse than I thought, I got some "pulsing" going on, like every 2 1/2 or 3 seconds the leaf colors changed (color) in a "wave like fashion". ![]() ![]() jffe Filter Forger |
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Posted: May 1, 2008 9:24 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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the chroma glasses are even better at giving headaches, jffe... at least to me. but, CF is getting some interesting results with the chroma filters.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: May 1, 2008 9:32 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Thought I would post the anaglyph method here Craig.....This is the same method that I had used for that
anaglyph swirl.....In this filter method you create an object or image and create a height map for it.... When creating the height map the parts that are white will make the image pop out of the screen..The parts that are black in your height map will make the image drop into the screen... This is part of what Richard Bartlett was talking about at the beginning of the thread about a proper height map.. The thing that was missing was the map to play nice with the offsets.... This method still does not work that well with imported images it works with images that are created entirely in FF...It is a slow method but gives good results.... In this filter example check out the height map and how it affects the grey circle.... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 2:33 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Heres the Filter..
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Posted: August 18, 2008 2:34 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Heres that version with images...
Anaglyph Image Method.ffxml Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 2:35 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok, create a height map, but, isnt that just a black and white? where does the red and blue come in?
i've got a feeling one of us is going to get frustrated in me trying to learn what you've done here ![]() ![]() and yes, that circle pops nicely. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 4:01 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Well instead of using a mask for the red channel...The height map distorts the red channel...Other then this it works the same as an anaglyph... Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 10:20 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Posted: August 19, 2008 10:26 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Posted: August 19, 2008 10:27 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Here is the snippet for this one...
Anaglyph Tex Method2nd.ffxml Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 19, 2008 10:28 am | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok, do you mean that you're substituting your heightmap for the normal red channel of an rgb? is that it? is that all?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 19, 2008 1:04 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Posted: August 19, 2008 4:02 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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cool.
ok, i told you i was going to be a bit (a lot) dense on this one, so, i get the extraction and that you're offsetting the red, but, why three times? is the invert offsetting those squares based on the height of each square? and... ok, the image in the invert is the height map. how are the offsets picking up the right shade to offset the red? i'm probably not seeing it, but i dont see any differences between the assemble rgb's. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 19, 2008 8:22 pm | ||||||||||
Carl
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very interesting, the filter was alot more complicated than I expected, what made you decide to use the rgb rather than doing a simple offset, I'm sure you have a good reason just curious
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Posted: August 20, 2008 2:39 am | ||||||||||
CFandM
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hehe ![]() ![]() ![]() Another way to do this is consolidate the offsets to one branch of assemble rgbs.. The difference is small in the offsets...But this is needed since putting the height map through the "Horizonal" distorts the heck out of the image..So the offset percentage needs to be at 1...Otherwise you will see the distortion in the render and it will ruin the anaglyph......So the more offsets you have the better depth you can create....3 offsets were giving a good amount of depth on these..... The black in the height map distorts the image one way and the white distorts the image the other way..Then the Grey is the middle-ground..Giving the below, above and even with the screen effect when processes through the red channel..... Hope that helped.. ![]() ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:23 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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Hope the above is less complicated. ![]() ![]() I tried the simple offsets but to do this one needs 2 images for a true anaglyph that way...I tried distortions with the same image but I could not get it good enough for an anaglyph...Then the blending of these just did not look all that good...The RGB method looked the best and worked great at every aspect of the process....The image still looks the same and it was lot easier to figure out a distortion method that worked well with the RGB........ Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:29 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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i'll have to take your word on all this for now. i love what you've done but just not a lot of time or brain cells to study this right now. is that last method from a filter you posted here in the thread?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:36 pm | ||||||||||
CFandM
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It from the last couple of example filters but I just consolidated those to one branch instead of three assemble RGBs...Makes it faster to...:>) Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:43 pm | ||||||||||
Kraellin
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ok. havent looked at those yet. downloaded, but not looked at yet. and yes, i can see that you've simply changed when and where on the offsets. does that still work ok that way?
see, that's the part i forget about the older way(s) we were trying... you had to offset the reds, i remember that ok, but i forget about the blues and ... wait, you are just mapping the reds to the heightmap? that's all? i assume that invert with the 4 greys is your simulated heightmap, yes? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:54 pm |
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