YOUR ACCOUNT

Messages 46 - 90 of 409
First | Prev. | 1 2 3 4 5 | Next | Last 
Login or Register to post new topics or replies
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
again, very cool, CF. got some real depth going there.


Thanks Kraellin, I think the only thing now to do with the Anaglyph Images is figure out a method of making all the layers work as one, as far as using only one or two controls to balance what part of the image goes to what layer..So there would be no need for so many layer controls... smile:)
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Did some more experimenting with this method..Is there a need for a second version of Anaglyph Patterns part 2..Heres one of the images so far..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
ya know, CF, with the new multiblend component, your 3d's might be refined even more... ?

Craig
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Well since you mentioned it smile;)
I was thinking of how I can use it to blend all the layers into one for Anaglyph Images.
Either one or two controls for the blending of the layers..Maybe using the levels or the contrast of the pict to control the amount of the pict that can be seen on the different layers..Kinda scratching the head on this for a couple of days now..I did manage to do something with the above filter thou..its called Painted Anaglyph Glass.
It does look better with the glasses on. smile:) You get the whole Glass illusion..
Those without glasses it looks cool without them also.. smile:D
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Had a sudden burst of thought smile:)
I was going to do a toon filter but then I thought why not add an Anaglyph effect also. Heres some picts..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
One more

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
hmmm, these last two dont work quite as well on my machine and with my 3d glasses. dont know why. the best ones so far, with my stuff, are the ones posted nov 10th thru the 13th.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Try this image, it does not pop out as much as I would like but the concept is still there.

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
One more here. Some images look more like a painty type rather than toonish. Image Taken from a royality-free image site.



Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
ok, i looked at the streetlight and lifepreserver again last night under different local lighting conditions. the streetlight has more depth than i originally thought, but there's something distracting going on in the background; something about the reds over that light blue background that hurts the eyes, but it does have more depth than i originally thought.

the lifepreserver seems to only have a tiny bit of depth in the reds. the rest seems rather flat. and on this last one, the colors against black seem to give the best results.

and here's a little food for thought, with the glasses on and i look at the smilies listed right above this reply, next to 'quote', the greens and reds actually seem to have a touch of depth smile:)

frankly, i find it remarkable that you've gotten what you've gotten. that chessboard and angel were pretty remarkable. those are the two that stick in my mind the best for depth.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
the lifepreserver seems to only have a tiny bit of depth in the reds. the rest seems rather flat. and on this last

one, the colors against black seem to give the best results.


Thanks for the feedback Kraellin, always very insightful and helpful on these. I took the "colors against black"

and played with this some more and I think I got what I was
looking for..

Heres that pict again, what's now left is naming controls and some info then presets..
What I also put in is a checkbox to switch the foreground with the background.
Then turning the depth all the way down results in just a toon filter..


Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
nd here's a little food for thought, with the glasses on and i look at the smilies listed right above this reply, next to 'quote', the greens and reds actually seem to have a touch of depth Smile


Whats also kinda interesting is edit or create a filter with a lot of colrful gradients..But have the glasses on while editing..It really hurts the eyes..


Quote
Kraellin wrote:
frankly, i find it remarkable that you've gotten what you've gotten. that chessboard and angel were pretty remarkable. those are the two that stick in my mind the best for depth.


I am also surprised I have gotten this far with these. The whole series was kinda a sidetracked project..But you know how that goes smile:D

I printed out the angel and have it hanging up...Just a tiny print nothing to huge..
I thought it came out looking like it had real depth also..
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
Quote
Whats also kinda interesting is edit or create a filter with a lot of colrful gradients..But have the glasses on while editing..It really hurts the eyes..


hehe, i'll bet smile:)

yes, i'm surprised you've gotten this far also. i think i mentioned getting an .8bf filter once that claimed you could do 3d depth in images, but it never worked. so, when you took this up i was already skeptical of such claims. but you've really done a good job. it's not quite theatre 3d, but it's far more than i ever expected out of a filter that wasnt truly designed for 3d depth.

so, what'd you do on that last posted image? all i can see is that you added a bit of shadowing on the ice and some blue to the background figures. other than that, i'm having a hard time seeing an increase in the depth.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
jffe
Posts: 2869
Filters: 90
Yay, more 3-D smile:D I tried to grab it just now, but the server is down for maintenance, probably just as well, it's 1am, and my eyes already = tired, I'll grab it tomorrow. I dunno how you can stand to make those, you must have eyes of steel ha-ha smile:D

jffe
Filter Forger
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Quote
jffe wrote:
you must have eyes of steel ha-ha Big grin

Well I did buy some laser pens, so I can write my own prescripts then do some self laser eye surgery..hehe smile:eek:

Quote
Kraellin wrote:
it's not quite theatre 3d, but it's far more than i ever expected out of a filter that wasnt truly designed for 3d depth.


Yea its not quite there.I was trying to shoot for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:St...aglyph.jpg
I had a couple of ideals of how to get this but implementing them in filter form
will be a real challange..The one filter I did with all the layers was close, but using a mask for each layer then trying to control them percisly was just not working to well..It was slow enough without that...But one day I will get this down if no one gets there before I do..
smile:)
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
so, what'd you do on that last posted image? all i can see is that you added a bit of shadowing on the ice and some blue to the background figures. other than that, i'm having a hard time seeing an increase in the depth.


That one has a little bit of depth nothing to deep..But that filter did get posted.
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/2058.html
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
Quote
Yea its not quite there.I was trying to shoot for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:St...aglyph.jpg


ok, how the hell did he do that? from what i see, he took an image from the library of congress, a sterograph (which is quite a bit different from an anaglyph) and turned it into this. i also see quite a bit of a shift there in the reds and blues.

you've now got me intrigued.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
i decided to make sure we were on the same page; so, i looked up 'anaglyph' in a google define. here's a pretty simple explanation of it:

Quote
A stereoscopic picture consisting of two images of the same object, taken from slightly different angles, in two complementary colors. When viewed through colored spectacles, the images merge to produce a stereoscopic sensation.
homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/rbf/GRDICT/grdict.htm


so, i'm guessing what you may be missing in your pieces is the 'taken from slightly different angles' part. but, that's just a guess, since i dont know what source image or images you're using.

could you do what you're trying to do in filter forge without two source images being in FF at the same time?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
and here's another from google define:

Quote
" a stereoview without the stereoviewer". It was W. Rollman who in 1853 first illustrated the principle of the anaglyph, using blue and red lines on a black field with red and blue glasses to perceive the effect. It is to Luis Ducas du Hauron that we owe the first printed anaglyphs, produced in 1891. This process consisted of printing the two negatives wich form a stereoscopic photograph on to the same paper, one in blue or in green, one in red. Thus a three dimensional image would result.
www.minicizotti.it/html/english/glossary.html


this one explains the process a bit.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
notice in that last one 'on a black field' smile:)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
and here's another define that has just a bit of additional data:

Quote
A stereo image that requires glasses with red and green (or blue) lenses for 3D viewing. The two stereo images are printed on top of each other, but offset. To the naked eye, the image looks overlapping, doubled and blurry. Traditionally, the image for the left eye is printed in red ink and the right eye image is printed in green ink.
www.vision3d.com/voctype.html


this one mentions that the red is usually on the left eye, which is what my glasses are. and, it mentions the offset.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Well, take a look at this one and test it out..It works great on most images. But it doesn't work so good on images with to much contrast....
But the pict below is straight from the new filter. Ran though only once..Theres not
many controls either


This pict is from StockXChange

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Heres the FF file

More Anaglyph Depth.ffxml
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
I think this is only part of the way..I think if I take the above filter and combine with maybe a copy or two of itself and then mask out certain parts it might work..
This is one more thing to love about FF..Experiment with something one might not have otherwise touched... smile:D smile:hammer:
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
jffe
Posts: 2869
Filters: 90


----It took a bit of adjusting to get it to not be kinda dark. Other than some darkness happening on pics, it's looking like a good and fast middle ground 3-D filter. smile:)

jffe
Filter Forger
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
CF, the statue one is pretty good. not nearly as much of that blue and especially, red 'drive your eyes nuts' look in it.

i'm curious here, i assume you're doing these on a single image rather than the stereographic, two image approach. what would happen if you did use two stereographic images?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Yes most of the filters so far have been one image..That one filter "Anaglyph Images"
that I did uses five. One for each layer...This new one uses only two..But the trick was..not a height map but more of a masking. Much like photoshop, trying to figure out how to use a threshold and a blur to create a mask for the images. So you have a background and you have a foreground...The foreground having bits of the image missing
and has only slight depth to it. While the background has a lot of depth..So it gives the illusion of height...Heres a pict of the new one....Have not submitted yet..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
ok, that one moves.

are you offsetting your multiple images (or layers) when you do multiples?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Yep, I need to offset them to be able to control the depth of that certain image..Otherwise it will right at the front of the screen.
Check the one I posted a couple of posts up...
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Wait a minute I think I found the height map clue that Richard was looking for on the first page...So this is only the beginning again for this...Try to run your mouse under the pict..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Now to combine this with depth the other way will be interesting...
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
Then one more. Some creepy pict I did a while back...

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
oh wow! that one really pops out of the picture! wow! i keep trying to look around the edges on that one. really cool! that whole block looks like it's sticking out an inch from the monitor! NOW you're really on the right track!
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
oops, i was still on page 3. i was talking about the last statue one.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
ok, now i'm on the right page again. your last one, the creepy one is pretty hard to see much. it's a bit too dark.

and on the last statue one, can you make the just the statue stand out from the pedestal now?

and yes, i tried running my mouse under it. cool. i notice the mouse seems behind things until i hit the lighter statue part, and then it's on top of that part. interesting.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
How about Halographic Donna..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
the last one of donna is off somehow. looks like the offset is too much or something.

go back to the statue one. that one is really impressive smile;)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
The creepy one if you click to veiw and stare at the eye for a minute it
almost looks like a halographic projection from the transparency..
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
For the donna one step back a few feet from the computer screen..She seems to be off the screen a couple of inches..But maybe its my lighting..Or I have been looking at these to long today.. smile:D
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
CF,

the donna one just doesnt work on my rig and my glasses. it may be that we have slightly different colored glasses or our monitors may be calibrated slightly differently. i get no 'pop' on it at all. what i get is two images, offset, but no real depth. the one that pops for me like you're saying the donna one does, is the statue. that one is CLEARLY popping out of the picture by a few inches on my rig, with my glasses. i mean, it's theatre quality 3d.

and that raises a very interesting question. if you're seeing the pop on one image and i'm not, but i'm seeing it on a different one, then what are others going to see with different calibrations, glasses and so on? we may need a larger sampling audience to really tweak this.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Whitedove
Miss Congeniality

Posts: 225
Filters: 12
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
we may need a larger sampling audience to really tweak this.


Somebody mail me a pair of the darn glasses so I can see!! smile8)

(Actually, I think I look pretty good with 3 eyes!) smile:D

Keep up the good work, it looks like you're getting really close...

Donna
  Details E-Mail
Kraellin
Kraellin

Posts: 12749
Filters: 99
donna,

you can make your own glasses. just go to a crafts store or any place that might sell colored plastic. often, craft stores already know the right colors as they get these requests from time to time. you need a red one, like the red on the left side of the donna pic and a blue-ish green one, like on the right side, only a bit darker. the red goes over the left eye and the blue-green over the right.

you can also find 3d video/dvd's at wal-mart or some place like that and there'll be a number of glasses in there.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
  Details E-Mail
Whitedove
Miss Congeniality

Posts: 225
Filters: 12
Quote
Kraellin wrote:
you can make your own glasses

Will do! Thanks, Craig.

Donna smile:)
  Details E-Mail
CFandM
ForgeSmith

Posts: 4761
Filters: 266
I know, I know I keep saying this but one more pict here..Unless I'm really done smile;)

Quote
Kraellin wrote:
can you make the just the statue stand out from the pedestal now?


Well this pict its somewhat coming out..

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
  Details E-Mail
jffe
Posts: 2869
Filters: 90
Nice, and no shiny spots on it either, very cool. It's kind of odd how some parts look sorta 3-D, that wouldn't in real life, in that the effect is a bit uncontrollable as to what stands out no ? Maybe I'm just seeing it wrong. Looks great though, best one yet maybe. But can ya make that silly life preserver float out of my screen and spin around 6 times like the Exorcist girl's head did ? smile:D

jffe
Filter Forger
  Details E-Mail

Messages 46 - 90 of 409
First | Prev. | 1 2 3 4 5 | Next | Last 

Join Our Community!

Filter Forge has a thriving, vibrant, knowledgeable user community. Feel free to join us and have fun!

33,712 Registered Users
+19 new in 30 days!

153,534 Posts
+27 new in 30 days!

15,348 Topics
+72 new in year!

Create an Account

Online Users Last minute:

28 unregistered users.