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CFandM
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Thanks Kraellin, I think the only thing now to do with the Anaglyph Images is figure out a method of making all the layers work as one, as far as using only one or two controls to balance what part of the image goes to what layer..So there would be no need for so many layer controls... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: November 19, 2006 6:10 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: November 19, 2006 9:37 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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ya know, CF, with the new multiblend component, your 3d's might be refined even more... ?
Craig If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: November 19, 2006 10:13 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Well since you mentioned it
![]() I was thinking of how I can use it to blend all the layers into one for Anaglyph Images. Either one or two controls for the blending of the layers..Maybe using the levels or the contrast of the pict to control the amount of the pict that can be seen on the different layers..Kinda scratching the head on this for a couple of days now..I did manage to do something with the above filter thou..its called Painted Anaglyph Glass. It does look better with the glasses on. ![]() Those without glasses it looks cool without them also.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: November 20, 2006 9:58 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 10, 2007 6:30 am | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 10, 2007 6:31 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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hmmm, these last two dont work quite as well on my machine and with my 3d glasses. dont know why. the best ones so far, with my stuff, are the ones posted nov 10th thru the 13th.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 10, 2007 2:19 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 10, 2007 10:58 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 11, 2007 10:31 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, i looked at the streetlight and lifepreserver again last night under different local lighting conditions. the streetlight has more depth than i originally thought, but there's something distracting going on in the background; something about the reds over that light blue background that hurts the eyes, but it does have more depth than i originally thought.
the lifepreserver seems to only have a tiny bit of depth in the reds. the rest seems rather flat. and on this last one, the colors against black seem to give the best results. and here's a little food for thought, with the glasses on and i look at the smilies listed right above this reply, next to 'quote', the greens and reds actually seem to have a touch of depth ![]() frankly, i find it remarkable that you've gotten what you've gotten. that chessboard and angel were pretty remarkable. those are the two that stick in my mind the best for depth. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 11, 2007 10:52 am | ||||||
CFandM
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Thanks for the feedback Kraellin, always very insightful and helpful on these. I took the "colors against black" and played with this some more and I think I got what I was looking for.. Heres that pict again, what's now left is naming controls and some info then presets.. What I also put in is a checkbox to switch the foreground with the background. Then turning the depth all the way down results in just a toon filter.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 11, 2007 1:08 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Whats also kinda interesting is edit or create a filter with a lot of colrful gradients..But have the glasses on while editing..It really hurts the eyes..
I am also surprised I have gotten this far with these. The whole series was kinda a sidetracked project..But you know how that goes ![]() I printed out the angel and have it hanging up...Just a tiny print nothing to huge.. I thought it came out looking like it had real depth also.. Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 11, 2007 1:16 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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hehe, i'll bet ![]() yes, i'm surprised you've gotten this far also. i think i mentioned getting an .8bf filter once that claimed you could do 3d depth in images, but it never worked. so, when you took this up i was already skeptical of such claims. but you've really done a good job. it's not quite theatre 3d, but it's far more than i ever expected out of a filter that wasnt truly designed for 3d depth. so, what'd you do on that last posted image? all i can see is that you added a bit of shadowing on the ice and some blue to the background figures. other than that, i'm having a hard time seeing an increase in the depth. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 12, 2007 10:57 pm | ||||||
jffe |
Yay, more 3-D
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Posted: February 13, 2007 3:20 am | ||||||
CFandM
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Well I did buy some laser pens, so I can write my own prescripts then do some self laser eye surgery..hehe ![]()
Yea its not quite there.I was trying to shoot for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:St...aglyph.jpg I had a couple of ideals of how to get this but implementing them in filter form will be a real challange..The one filter I did with all the layers was close, but using a mask for each layer then trying to control them percisly was just not working to well..It was slow enough without that...But one day I will get this down if no one gets there before I do.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 7:18 am | ||||||
CFandM
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That one has a little bit of depth nothing to deep..But that filter did get posted. http://www.filterforge.com/filters/2058.html Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 7:55 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, how the hell did he do that? from what i see, he took an image from the library of congress, a sterograph (which is quite a bit different from an anaglyph) and turned it into this. i also see quite a bit of a shift there in the reds and blues. you've now got me intrigued. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 13, 2007 9:52 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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i decided to make sure we were on the same page; so, i looked up 'anaglyph' in a google define. here's a pretty simple explanation of it:
so, i'm guessing what you may be missing in your pieces is the 'taken from slightly different angles' part. but, that's just a guess, since i dont know what source image or images you're using. could you do what you're trying to do in filter forge without two source images being in FF at the same time? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 9:57 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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and here's another from google define:
this one explains the process a bit. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 10:00 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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notice in that last one 'on a black field'
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 10:01 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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and here's another define that has just a bit of additional data:
this one mentions that the red is usually on the left eye, which is what my glasses are. and, it mentions the offset. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 10:06 am | ||||||
CFandM
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Well, take a look at this one and test it out..It works great on most images. But it doesn't work so good on images with to much contrast....
But the pict below is straight from the new filter. Ran though only once..Theres not many controls either This pict is from StockXChange ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 9:34 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Heres the FF file
More Anaglyph Depth.ffxml Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 9:35 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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I think this is only part of the way..I think if I take the above filter and combine with maybe a copy or two of itself and then mask out certain parts it might work..
This is one more thing to love about FF..Experiment with something one might not have otherwise touched... ![]() ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 13, 2007 9:40 pm | ||||||
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![]() ----It took a bit of adjusting to get it to not be kinda dark. Other than some darkness happening on pics, it's looking like a good and fast middle ground 3-D filter. ![]() jffe Filter Forger |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 12:31 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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CF, the statue one is pretty good. not nearly as much of that blue and especially, red 'drive your eyes nuts' look in it.
i'm curious here, i assume you're doing these on a single image rather than the stereographic, two image approach. what would happen if you did use two stereographic images? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 12:22 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Yes most of the filters so far have been one image..That one filter "Anaglyph Images"
that I did uses five. One for each layer...This new one uses only two..But the trick was..not a height map but more of a masking. Much like photoshop, trying to figure out how to use a threshold and a blur to create a mask for the images. So you have a background and you have a foreground...The foreground having bits of the image missing and has only slight depth to it. While the background has a lot of depth..So it gives the illusion of height...Heres a pict of the new one....Have not submitted yet.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 1:01 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, that one moves.
are you offsetting your multiple images (or layers) when you do multiples? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 5:05 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Yep, I need to offset them to be able to control the depth of that certain image..Otherwise it will right at the front of the screen.
Check the one I posted a couple of posts up... Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 8:44 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 14, 2007 9:56 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Now to combine this with depth the other way will be interesting...
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Posted: February 14, 2007 9:57 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 14, 2007 10:26 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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oh wow! that one really pops out of the picture! wow! i keep trying to look around the edges on that one. really cool! that whole block looks like it's sticking out an inch from the monitor! NOW you're really on the right track!
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 10:44 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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oops, i was still on page 3. i was talking about the last statue one.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 10:45 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, now i'm on the right page again. your last one, the creepy one is pretty hard to see much. it's a bit too dark.
and on the last statue one, can you make the just the statue stand out from the pedestal now? and yes, i tried running my mouse under it. cool. i notice the mouse seems behind things until i hit the lighter statue part, and then it's on top of that part. interesting. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 14, 2007 10:48 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 14, 2007 10:57 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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the last one of donna is off somehow. looks like the offset is too much or something.
go back to the statue one. that one is really impressive ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 11:06 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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The creepy one if you click to veiw and stare at the eye for a minute it
almost looks like a halographic projection from the transparency.. Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: February 14, 2007 11:06 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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For the donna one step back a few feet from the computer screen..She seems to be off the screen a couple of inches..But maybe its my lighting..Or I have been looking at these to long today..
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Posted: February 14, 2007 11:09 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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CF,
the donna one just doesnt work on my rig and my glasses. it may be that we have slightly different colored glasses or our monitors may be calibrated slightly differently. i get no 'pop' on it at all. what i get is two images, offset, but no real depth. the one that pops for me like you're saying the donna one does, is the statue. that one is CLEARLY popping out of the picture by a few inches on my rig, with my glasses. i mean, it's theatre quality 3d. and that raises a very interesting question. if you're seeing the pop on one image and i'm not, but i'm seeing it on a different one, then what are others going to see with different calibrations, glasses and so on? we may need a larger sampling audience to really tweak this. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 15, 2007 10:32 am | ||||||
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Somebody mail me a pair of the darn glasses so I can see!! ![]() (Actually, I think I look pretty good with 3 eyes!) ![]() Keep up the good work, it looks like you're getting really close... Donna |
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Posted: February 15, 2007 1:42 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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donna,
you can make your own glasses. just go to a crafts store or any place that might sell colored plastic. often, craft stores already know the right colors as they get these requests from time to time. you need a red one, like the red on the left side of the donna pic and a blue-ish green one, like on the right side, only a bit darker. the red goes over the left eye and the blue-green over the right. you can also find 3d video/dvd's at wal-mart or some place like that and there'll be a number of glasses in there. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 15, 2007 2:00 pm | ||||||
Whitedove
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Will do! Thanks, Craig. Donna ![]() |
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Posted: February 15, 2007 3:11 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Posted: February 15, 2007 9:48 pm | ||||||
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Nice, and no shiny spots on it either, very cool. It's kind of odd how some parts look sorta 3-D, that wouldn't in real life, in that the effect is a bit uncontrollable as to what stands out no ? Maybe I'm just seeing it wrong. Looks great though, best one yet maybe. But can ya make that silly life preserver float out of my screen and spin around 6 times like the Exorcist girl's head did ?
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