Off the Deep End with ThreeDee

After using FF for long enough, you can't help but start to come up with ideas that best fit in the category of "why in the world would anybody do that in Filter Forge?"

Not only do you come up with the ideas, but one day you find yourself making the filter although there is no logical reason to do it in FF. I suspect it is a sign of deepening addiction to Filter Forge from which there is no return.

And on that note, it's only too appropriate to start this thread with my latest development along this line: Welcome to the Matrix.

These "use-less" filters usually go editor's pick and get used the most! I love it!

That looks way cool ThreeDee...BTW welcome to the deep end of the addition pool..

Speaking of self portraits, here's what can happen to your avatar when it gets sucked into the Matrix.

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ThreeDee wrote: [...] ideas that best fit in the category of "why in the world would anybody do that in Filter Forge?"

Those are my favorites!

Excellent suff there, ThreeDee! I like the last sample, expecially!

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ThreeDee wrote: but one day you find yourself making the filter although there is no logical reason to do it in FF. I suspect it is a sign of deepening addiction to Filter Forge from which there is no return.

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CFandM wrote: welcome to the deep end of the addition pool..

Hehe, indeed!

wow this would be an EP

Well, I'll be damned , it did make an EP.

I put the most "perspectivized" examples in this thread, but quite a variety of effects can be made with the filter; if you decrease the "depth" low enough, you will begin to see the original picture. Well, you can see some of the other effects in the presets.

The original idea probably goes back all the way to one of my all-time favorite movies, Brainstorm, with Christopher Walken, which had some computer-generated scenes similar to the look of the filter.

I was actually surprised how easy it was to make correct depth perspective with the offset/gradient method. A linear increase in the offset percentage automatically creates exponential scaling. (Hold on -- I just realized something! I'll be right back. I gotta try something out...)

It worked -- proper perspective planes!

Why didn't I think of this before?!

Man, I've been trying to achieve this in much more complicated ways!

Now this is exciting!

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ThreeDee wrote: Now this is exciting!

It certainly is!!! This will cure alot of things.....

It looks like it might take care of the "Un-proportional Profile Gradient" problem.....so you don't have to choose the longer side anymore.....

Will be interesting to see a solution to this..Theres a couple of filters that I have but they don't have a proper perspective...

Okay, some more crazy stuff.

Here's my proof of concept of using perspective transformation for landscapes. A fairly complex image created purely in FF with one filter. (Once I can connect to the server again, I'll submit it...)

This is called "On the Road Again." I stuffed all kinds of things in there to test things out: ground place, cloud plane, water, somewhere to go and some way to get there.

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ThreeDee wrote: Here's my proof of concept of using perspective transformation for landscapes. A fairly complex image created purely in FF with one filter. (Once I can connect to the server again, I'll submit it...) This is called "On the Road Again." I stuffed all kinds of things in there to test things out: ground place, cloud plane, water, somewhere to go and some way to get there.

Very Cool..Its like Bryce 0.5 or 1.0
Is there another EP on the horizon

wow! i feel like such an amateur. quite amazing, 3D!

uhm, one question here; someone did a perspective filter before. it was four walls going to the vanishing point/horizen. is this a similar means of doing that same thing?

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ThreeDee wrote: On the Road Again."

great stuff threedee

ah, that could be fun i'll bet there's some other variations that could produce some cool stuff, also.

Another example.

The filter features optional advanced controls for Reflection, Reflection Blur and Metallic, which can be derived from one of the RGB channels. Since you can't get any extra alpha channels into FF, I went that route. As in the previous example, you can see that different texture areas have different Reflection, Reflection Blur and Metallic properties.

Image:


Selection:


Result:

With bump mapping added:

whoa, slow down there, 3D lol. you do realize that you're about a mile and a half ahead of most of us here, right?

let's go back to that bottle image. you did that bottle completely in FF or are you just talking about a treatment done to the bottle image that already existed?

and what is 'lathing a custom profile'? i sort of have an idea of what you're talking about, but i want to be clear on this. so, walk us ignorant savages through it, if you would

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Kraellin wrote: whoa, slow down there, 3D Smile lol. you do realize that you're about a mile and a half ahead of most of us here, right? Wink let's go back to that bottle image. you did that bottle completely in FF or are you just talking about a treatment done to the bottle image that already existed? and what is 'lathing a custom profile'? i sort of have an idea of what you're talking about, but i want to be clear on this. so, walk us ignorant savages through it, if you would Smile

Oops. You mean you can't see my monitor...?

In this case, the 3D object itself is created in FF, not the textures.

Going back to the bottle image, I made the flat texture and the bottle profile in Photoshop and then Filter forge made it into a "3D" bottle based on those two images. Kinda like doing 3D without a 3D program.

Okay, let's take that one step at a time:

I made this image in Photoshop (not FF):



Then in the same image I made this alpha channel (selection):



With the selection active, I opened FF and run the filter on it and, voila, I got this:



In 3D modeling "lathe" is an operation where you rotate a flat profile (such as the profile of the bottle here) around an axis to create a 3-dimensional object. Any object which is a circle in cross section along one axis can be made with a lathe operation; this includes things like bottles, glasses and cups, light bulbs and lamp shades, plates, pots, plungers, and so on.

In real life lathe is a machine where some material (generally a wood or metal rod) rotates around at great speed while you carve it into a shape.

This all started when I was doing the glass for the Halloween Party Drink and was frustrated at how difficult it is to make a good shape for the glass with FF Components. This started me wondering whether is was possible to start with a profile done in some other way and have FF turn it into an object.

Here's what the same lathe (or "revolve") operation looks like in 3D.

You are insane.

In a good way.

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ThreeDee wrote: I made this image in Photoshop (not FF):

Um.. that made me think of the cigarette filter.. probably is possible to knock up a filter to use as the image as well. Kinda overlaying different filters.

Makes me think there might be away to do the alpha shapes too.. Then build up the picture using layers and the different filters.

Cool one 3d!