Vladimir Golovin
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Posted: December 2, 2008 9:15 am | ||||||
Vladimir Golovin
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Great filter, we almost gave it an Editor's Pick!
However, I remembered that some time ago I stumbled upon this: http://flickr.com/photos/quasimondo/162017845/ Quasimondo says that the linked picture is "Made with a filter I build in Filter Forge" (emphasis mine). Flickr says the pic was uploaded on June 6, 2006. So, I'm a little confused -- who's the author of the filter? |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 9:24 am | ||||||
Sjeiti
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Weird.. I guess we both made the same filter, only Quasimondo never submitted it. My idea was triggered by some Atari sounds I once recorded. I'm familiar with Quasimondo's work. I hope I didn't subconciously rip the idea, although I can't remember ever going through his flickr pages. |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 10:08 am | ||||||
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----If Quasimodo never submitted his, then why not an EP anyways ?
----Ugh, reminds me of programming "sprites" on ye olde C64 in the late 80's ha-ha ![]() jffe Filter Forger |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 11:00 am | ||||||
Sjeiti
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Because you don't give someone credit for ripping off someone else's idea ![]() Well, I didn't though. If I had known Quasimondo had already done this I wouldn't have submitted it. Or I'd have at least asked his permission or credited him for the idea (he credits me). I'm a bit unsure what to do with all this. |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 12:00 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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dont worry about it, sjeiti. it's actually more common than you might imagine that two peopel come up with the same idea/product/service in roughly the same time frame (yes, 2006 isnt that long ago).
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 2, 2008 12:16 pm | ||||||
Redcap
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Interesting enough 3 people all stumbled upon non-euclidean geometry independent of one another roughly within the same time frame. That is HUGE, so it does happen. Sjeiti; EP or not this is an awesome filter!!! Way to keep the library fresh.
*downloaded* |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 8:43 pm | ||||||
jffe |
----I fail to see it that way, despite the time stamp on his version or whatever. If you didn't see it and copy it, just came up with your own and chose to submit it, then you should get that credit be it an EP or whatever. While he can keep the "I did one just like it first" credit if he wants ha-ha ![]() jffe Filter Forger |
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Posted: December 2, 2008 9:54 pm | ||||||
Crapadilla
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Great filter, Sjeiti!
Are we talking about the idea or the actual filter construction here? The 'space invaders' idea is obviously so pop culture that it cannot be attributed to either Sjeiti or Quasimondo. That leaves the filter construction, and unless it is an exact copy of Quasi's filter (quite unlikely!), I think it is clear who the author is. Also, Sjeiti actually submitted this to the Filter Library, Quasi didn't. How can we compare filters in the Filter Library with those outside of the Filter Library (i.e. those in private libraries)? We can't! So, in my book, for the purpose of rewarding innovation and excellence among the filters of the Filter Library - Quasi's version obviously does not count. --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: December 3, 2008 7:18 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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I have to agree.....and would suggest giving Sjeiti the EP for it.....
Excellent filter, Sjeiti!!! ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 3, 2008 1:54 pm | ||||||
Quasimondo
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Well, I could of course always still submit it
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Posted: December 3, 2008 5:48 pm | ||||||
Sjeiti
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I'm relieved you're ok with it
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Posted: December 4, 2008 3:56 am | ||||||
Vladimir Golovin
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Excellent
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Posted: December 4, 2008 5:06 am | ||||||
Sjeiti
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But why would I want to do that? I took a good look after you posted the link to that picture and the two filters are definitely different. Quasimondo's invaders appear to be 12x12 tiles with the invaders taking up 10x10 (if could be wrong with all the antialiasing). Whereas I tried to match the original invaders as much as possible: 16x16 tiles with 7x8 invaders. Mind you that this is a quite simple filter, changing a small portion would change the result lot. If this is a question of giving me an EP or not, I don't really care for that. I'd rather have Quasimondo submitted his version for EP. |
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Posted: December 4, 2008 5:47 am | ||||||
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Posted: December 5, 2008 1:46 am | ||||||
Crapadilla
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That's the spirit! ![]() --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: December 5, 2008 8:35 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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congrats, sjeiti
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 5, 2008 8:58 am | ||||||
Sjeiti
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Then again... that's easy for us to say ![]() With all those HU's you'd almost wish you could trade em in for extra smileys or something. |
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Posted: December 5, 2008 9:04 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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he's saving them up to buy bella a couch, sjeiti
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 5, 2008 12:38 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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That can't be Dilla..... ![]() Congrats, Sjeiti!!! ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 5, 2008 12:57 pm | ||||||
IONclad |
I know from my own experience that even though you may build a filter first, if you don't submit it to public scrutiny it doesn't really exist. So, though I've had a few "doh, I did that filter a year ago!" moments when I see someone else's work online, I always follow it up with. "well, perhaps you should have posted yours you dope"
![]() Both filters are glorious and everyone should share a big filter forge group hug. Ian the artist formerly known as Bongo51 |
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