Would be possible to make a dots variation scale for Picture Dots ?

I like much this filter Picture Dots by Sharandra



and now I have seen this design



And would like to know if there is a way to make this inside filter Forge, NOT THE SAME DOTS DESIGN OR THE SPACING, JUST ONLY the idea os scaling the dots from small at top to big at bottom and keeping all the dots as it appears already in the filter.

I do not know how to make a gradation scale because I have tried it, but with no sucess yet.

Shame on you, Sharandra!

Took you around two hours to read the request, look into it, make the neccesasry adjustments, upload the update and post about it...

I frequently check whats new on the forum ^^ And I have a lot more time again now:-)

I was thinking about your new suggestion before submitting it but didn´t put it in because it would be a control for only that mode but it could be added.

And how I did it...Well its a really simple filter. Take it apart and have a look. All it really does is abuse the mortar width of the tiles component to create the interesting spacing patterns. Plug in a gradient and voila! Try out other patterns aswell, different noises might give interesting results too.

Here

Picture Dots.ffxml

I have just checked your solution BUT I am sorry to say that the gradient fix DOES NOT WORK

WHY?

Simply because all the dots are spaced with the SAME width as the largest of the dots so the smallest ones are very separated and CAN´T be joined toghether as it is shown in the example I have put here



If you see to this example ALL the dots are always joined toghether, I mean that all the small ones are all toghether in a row one next to the other without depending on the size of the others ones below

Here is more explained HOW the example of the bed dots texture is done

I knew that it could not be SO EASY to fix this putting just a gradient

Anyway, thanks very much for trying to fix it and letting me know how this can be changed and is also interesting and useful to have the updated filter and see how you have done it.

I think that to be able to do this as shown below will be much more complex than it seems

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Sharandra wrote: I did exactly what you requested

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SpaceRay wrote: NOT THE SAME DOTS DESIGN OR THE SPACING,

Yes, I am very sorry for having explained it badly, and you are right that according to my request what you have done is right and correct

I should have written "Not the same dots design or the EMPTY spacing separation, but keeping the dots joined together."

with "not the same design" I mean the PATTERN that the dots follow as seen in the example.

Yeah doesn´t look like its possible with just a gradient and tiles. Its a bit more complex, I´ll let you know if I figure it out

Or simply rotate input by 90 degs, do what you have and then flip the output -90 degs.

Many shapes can be created at a time with Free Shape components Using Gradient, Floor or Ceil components .
Variable size dots can be created applying this method.

Nice one! Learnt something new Thx Inujima

CONGRATULATIONS Inujima !! You have done it !! Well done

BUT the problem is that I do not know how to apply the components you have put in the example.

Could you please show HOW and WHERE you have added your components to the Sharandra filter ?

Or upload the filter so we can see it and if Sharandra wants could upload the update.

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SpaceRay wrote: By the way, I forgot to make a further request based on this. To be able to choose the orientation of the scaling, I mean if it would be from top to bottom, from left to right, or viceversa.

Now that you have got it right is just a thing of rotating the effect OR is more complex than that ?

Mongoose King although this is not the same as the example above and like the well done solution from Inujima, is NOT WRONG and could be also perhaps interesting if you duplicate them and flip one the copies to get this one below

NOTE IMPORTANT

Please, do NOT see this example as ONE, I have made 3 different examples that are marked with different rectangle colors to show ONE full result.

Or even better shown to be clear that these are 3 different examples shown in one but would be separate from each other

These are really ONLY 2 examples

Because the third example is the same as the first one and I have ONLY put this in case that the first is not possible to make, because if you make a duplicate and then flip it horizontally you would get TWO central elipses and not just one, and so the result would look like the thirs result and not like the first one.

and with the photos inside

Please all the above examples SINCE the last Mongoose King post are ONLY suggestions and NOT a request, just an idea I had after seeing the example that he had put.

Oh sweet stuff I didn't know floor and ceiling worked like that too!!

This is answer.
It might needs some mathematical knowledge to understand why it works.

Dots.ffxml

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It might needs some mathematical knowledge to understand why it works

Well, before I looked at the filter, I was thinking "Count me out".

Then I looed under the hood and
I don't even want to know...

I agree with you Morgantao, after looking inside the filter I and really do not want to know WHY and HOW this works in this way so well but I do not care, I leave this to the experts and gods of FF

Love it

Power and ArcTangent components are used to make bands with various widths when passed through Ceil or Floor component.
Tangent and Root components is inverse function of Power and ArcTangent componens.
Inverse function is the function that restores output of original function to input of original function.
By passing through inverse function components after passing through Ceil or Floor, we can get coordinates of edges of bands.
A Grayscale value of band passed through the Ceil and inverse function means coordinate of bottom of band. And a value passed through Floor means a coordinate of top of band.
As a result we can get a center Y coordinate of a dot as an average of two coordinates. And a subtract of two coordinates has become a diameter of a dot.