Technique called ‘orbit trapping’ to map an image into fractal space

I have seen a filter for photoshop that uses a technique called ‘orbit trapping’ to map an image into fractal space

http://www.subblue.com/projects/fractal_explorer

This uses fractal data to position photo images as if they were shown using the fractal data positions, Sorry that I explains this badly, Here is better an example to show it







I had the crazy idea that perhaps this could be possible in some way to be done also as a FF filter, but really and probably this would not be able to build something like this.

WHY I THOUGHT ABOUT MAKING A FILTER FORGE FILTER WITH THIS ?

In the already made filter plug in I have put above it works very well, BUT ONLY allows to put just ONE image and this is the one that is going to be repeated all over the fractal image, so I thought that as Filter Forge can use more than one when configuring it in the filter, probably this could be a solution for having more than one image as fractal source.

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Morgantao wrote: It would be possible to make this effect using LUA scripts. I suspect it will be very slow though, because LUA is slower than hard coded components, fractals are notoriusly slow and there's no GPU acceleration involved.

YES, you are right, Sphinx have already used LUA scripts for something like this, and as you say they are very slow, if fractals are already slow on hard coded components, in LUA would be even slower as you comment very well, and of course is the very important and essential thing that FF does not have any GPU acceleration

I HAVE TESTED IT MYSELF AND GPU IS ESSENTIAL FOR IT TO WORK

I have just downloaded it and tested myself, and have found that if you do not use the GPU option, and leave only the CPU, it goes like a very slow motion movie and can´t really use it much, and is painful to use this way.

Activating the GPU optimization is like putting an airplane engine to it, it goes very fast and ALL in full real time.

SO THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE IN FF

So after the test and the really HUGE difference between the NON GPU option, I must say that this is not possible to make in Filter Forge, and considering that this is hard code software, and not using LUA script that would be even slower.

Sorry for suggesting this and not have thought that it would need GPU acceleration optimization

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Morgantao wrote: In any case, I stand by my description above my logo

if you can´t script, much less can I

First test - I'm using a modified version of the fractal explorer I made a while ago..

Good start!

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What use has the PHP file that you have put in the link ??? Inside this file there are lots of texts from the FF FORUM !!!!

Just click it

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The MOST IMPORTANT question is HOW FAST it is to render in FF, because in Pixel bender is done in REALTIME and I do not think that in FF would not be possible.

Nothing in FF is realtime, but the filter is quite fast by FF standards. The two images above were rendered in about 10 secs, 25 samples AA!

The attached one rendered in 1 minute and it is set to the most expensive settings possible

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Sphinx wrote: Quote What use has the PHP file that you have put in the link ??? Inside this file there are lots of texts from the FF FORUM !!!! Just click it

YES I am Sorry I thought that this was some kind of trial of the script or filter and I tried to download it instead of CLICKING OVER the link

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Sphinx wrote: Quote The MOST IMPORTANT question is HOW FAST it is to render in FF, because in Pixel bender is done in REALTIME and I do not think that in FF would not be possible. Nothing in FF is realtime, but the filter is quite fast by FF standards. The two images above were rendered in about 10 secs, 25 samples AA! The attached one rendered in 1 minute and it is set to the most expensive settings possible

That´s why I was asking because I know VERY WELL that NOTHING in FF is in realtime you would need to have GPU acceleration for this to be possible

The time you have put is good and usable, BUT this time is RELATIVE and really not a good measure to know if it fast or not UNLESS YOU KNOW THE RESOLUTION OF THIS EXAMPLES

The time you have measured is to make the 600 x 600 examples you have put above ?

Taking the highest one you have put, if it takes 1 minute to make a 600x600 result, then:

it would take 16 MINUTES to make a 2400 x 2400 (600x600 = 360.000 2400x2400 = 5.760.000 --> 5.760.000 / 360.000 = 16)

it would take nearly 45 MINUTES to make a 4000 x 4000

Making a 4000 x 4000 image with Pixel Bender Fractal Explorer in high quality using GPU activated it takes 1 SECOND

Wow. Very nice results. Also the original site is interesting. I like their videos.

SpaceRay, your new avatar is very nice too.

Please, Is there any new news about this idea ?

Sphinx, have you done anything else with this ?

Thanks

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Sphinx wrote in 2012 I will post a multi image version soon (I'm out of time atm.). It will use different images as the iterations progress

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Sphinx, Is there any possible news about this filter to be used with source images? This is really cool and awesome

The link in the first post does not exist anymore, and laso are missing the images attached, now it takes you to ANOTHER different link, so do not be confused

OR if anyone knows another software that is able to do this in the same way, maybe faster than FF, is important for me that the alternative software must use a GUI based mouse driven way to control and does not need to use any kind of programming or scripting