jumble print generator - how to do non overlapping.

Hello!

I want to make a jumble print generator for my fabric printing purpose. (Spoonflower digital print)

The idea is to feed it with one or more graphics I have make and let it make a jumble print (with rotation chaos or ordered rotations) but still tight spaced but NOT overlapping. No size chaos.

I had idea of putting the graphic into circles (to make it simpler... or polygons), making the circle small enough to fit the graphic snugly, and then order the circles so they touch each other but not overlapping. With transparent background you would not see the circle holders and you got a jumble print of small graphics over a certain seamless background of choice or solid color.. It would be awesome. Or something! And then the whole thing in its turn should be seamless but a non-seamless could work too if I make the whole thing large enough for the fabric project but it would produce a very heavy image upload to the printing. And ideally you would want a continuous fabric print and not just a fixed non-seamless rectangle.

But the execution...


Found something like this:
https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...sage110380

but not very helpful and maybe not possible to do?

Or would my ideas be too complicated?

Ok! Thank you so much for taking time to write a reply. I understand now it not possible/easy to do with the components as is. So I can set this silly idea aside.

Maybe in future verisons.

I went to look at Percolator. It is beautiful. Quick glance I know, but it looks like it only adds bubbles on top of one single photo, right? I wanted to fill every bubble (or basic polygon) with a picture (of random/ordered choice) inside instead.

See this photo I made with basic Bomber component.
Imagine instead then that every "tile" are different size and conforming to the size of the original file instead for opposite, so we have 5 different sized circles with their roses inside.

Then puzzle them together, rotating contents random, making them more snugly fitted. Probably better with polygons, yes.

Quote
Funny Bunny I understand now it not possible/easy to do with the components as is. So I can set this silly idea aside.

Well, is not possible yet to do it, and until now nobody has found a combination of components that could make this possible and there is no news about FF team developing a non overlapping bomber component, but this does not mean that is impossible to make it, just very tricky and complex, and as ThreeDee and other have said, this would be surely involve making some specific and well done script with some kind of non overlapping algorithm

DO NOT say that this is a silly idea, because is really an EXCELLENT and very good and valuable idea, and I myself have had this idea already 2 or 3 years ago, and since then I have been searching a way to do exactly the same thing as you want to do, but until now have not found the way to do it, even searching for any other software that could be able to do this AND WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANY PROGRAMMING, as this seems to be "easy" to do IF you now how to to use some graphical programming language, like for example Progressing.org

Quote
I went to look at Percolator. It is beautiful. Quick glance I know, but it looks like it only adds bubbles on top of one single photo, right?

YES, it will only convert your own photo into a collection of circles of different sizes very tightly arranged into an NON overlapping space, regrettably you CAN´T replace the bubbles with your OWN isolated objects as you have done with the roses

The ONLY software I have found until now that can make something like this is the SHAPE COLLAGE

Hi Funny Bunny, I think I know what you are looking for, but like everyone else has said we haven't figured out how to do this yet in Filter Forge.

Have you ever tried Patternshop? Here is the link. It's a free program. They do have a donation button. http://patternshop.sourceforge.net/en/index.php/

It's a simple program with very few bells and whistles and not a lot of instruction, but it does make seamless tiles appropriate for fabric application. You import your images into the sized tile you want and you can size and rotate them the way you want them to look on your fabric. It automatically shows you the images tiled on a larger canvas, then you export them as a pattern and it will save your tile. They have some tutorials that give you the basics that I suggest you read. I haven't found anything else that will do this and believe me I have looked. I believe it supports TIF, PNG, BMP,JPG,and TGA files. You can give it a try and see if it helps you.




Here is a screen shot of the program in use

I forgot to add you can uncheck the background in the menu box to get an invisible background and your tile than can be saved to overlay over other backgrounds.

Mardar: Downloading the software to see if it is anything good.

Xirja: The first one I love! It is theoretical I guess? No software yet. But looks promising.