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Posted: May 25, 2011 9:33 am | ||
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I mean... yes.... I hate to break it to you, but I really don't see any point in the latest snipplets you've uploaded. FOR SOME OF THEM, I do understand what's going on and their significance, but otherwise... what is this snipplet supposed to be even doing? Is it demonstrating that you can use the angle slider to rotate the angle of the gradient? I guess if you don't have access to the Filter Editor this may be a handy. Though, then I wonder if these gradient filters serve anything to begin with. I mean, if you can explain the meaning to all this it'd be wonderful, though so far I just don't get anything out of it.
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Posted: May 25, 2011 9:55 am | ||
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Most snippets are for copy paste purposes if you need a simple to create circle gradient you only need 2 or 3 components with this method versus the other snippets that do the exact same thing this is a simpler version
how is it that 90% of the snippet base is the same as this one an example of how to do something for beginners and a opportunity to cut and paste components, but your upset because I'm doing it?????? It is a snippet not a filter for practical use Basically example code equivalent.. isnt that what all the snippets are meant to be examples not production filters???? lets all whine for a wine port |
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Posted: May 25, 2011 4:11 pm | ||
CFandM
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This is what the site says...
Snippets (160) – Filters that illustrate ideas or techniques of interest to the filter development community. This is a good one vold..When using just that angle grad one cannot freely rotate it without a little extra help.. ![]() ![]() Snippets are basic and sometimes complex solutions to a problem... http://www.filterforge.com/wiki/index...ppet_Guide Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: May 25, 2011 4:30 pm | ||
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Oh no no no, I'm not arguing the simplicity of the filter, I'm arguing about what it was meant to accomplish and somehow it was confirmed after 2 posts. And I do understand what snipplets are. I refer to them all the time for the filters I make / modify.
I mean this is what you put as your description: "Fastest way yet to make a circle gradient" I just don't think this is sufficient as a description. It does what it does. But it doesn't say anything about controlling the gradient via rotate for the angle slider as opposed to using the XY controls. Now that doesn't mean you should go in an be super verbose in your filter / description. It's a matter of making it easier for somebody else to understand what the snipplet's doing. AND that's basically all there is to that "no point" argument. ![]() -- side note for everybody else while I'm on the topic -- I feel like even the newbies have issues with snipplets because of this. I taught how to use FF at my school for our 3D club, I said to them as an advice: Look in the Filter Library and deconstruct the filter to see what does what. You can then apply it to your own creation. Then I said, look also in the snipplets section for solutions too! And so they did. They returned to me with more questions than I could answer. Mostly because this stuff gets hardcore really quickly. But once in a while, I had questions regarding snipplets. They would download the snipplet, try it out, and wonder what it was all about. I tell them "read the description," and so they do. They come back and still ask me questions. Why? Because the description was too general. It said nothing. No wonder newbies have problems seeing purposes to snipplets. Even filters are subject to the same scrutiny. I've noticed question marks over people's heads as they looked at the Filter in the editor. It is very very very difficult to deconstruct something and somehow reverse engineer to understand its ultimate goal. We can guess, but that's not good enough. I think this is a very basic issue with FF sometimes. We don't have internal comments in the editor! (And sure we can work around this problem but I still would want this official.) So our only option for description is the filter description and the forum. And beyond that, we don't have much. ![]() I always felt FilterForge was easier to get a grasp of, though it always seemed like the lack of communication within the editor that hindered many who attempted using it. For example friend who I gave away a copy of FF still has no clue what he's seeing in the editor, which just deters him away from using it. I'm pretty sure by now we've said enough about the need of commentary and better descriptions for our creations. I've done my best to make sure that the Filter is easy to understand, though I still have moments wondering if I'm really saying anything in the end. That's all for now. I think we all get it. |
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