StevieJ
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CUT IT OUT !!! by Carl
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/5048.html ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: January 31, 2008 8:16 am | ||||||||||||
StevieJ
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This one freaks me out!!!
![]() ![]() I was wondering how this would look under some surface lighting for 3D..... ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: January 31, 2008 8:19 am | ||||||||||||
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Cool filer. At first it looked horrible to me, like what is this crap, then my eyes adjusted 3-4 seconds later, and I could see the levels going on.
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Posted: January 31, 2008 1:11 pm | ||||||||||||
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Thanks for having a look guys, Dilla sort of pushed me into releasing this one out of my storage yard after posting the same concept in the " suggest new filters " thread, it was the third in the cutaway series after the last two reached the dizzy height of LU I abandon this one. I've added a switch for the option now for variable size, angle, colour and texture side walls on the pieces, which I'll release as an update, here is a sample of the new option
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Posted: February 1, 2008 4:29 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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I like it, but...
![]() ...the drop-shadows can be done without the use of any blur components*, whose absence would - dare I say it - make the whole thing much faster! ![]() ![]() [* see my little 'addition' at the top of the filter tree] CUT IT OUT blatantly crappified !!!.ffxml --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 18, 2008 4:47 pm | ||||||||||||
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I like this one alot! Very cool
It looks like there could be some advantages (regarding memory efficiency and maybe performance) by using the ARGB assemble trick and then process in "parallel" and extract channels finally for the blending part. See the DO's and DONT's articles. |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 4:08 am | ||||||||||||
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Okay I ran this through 50 translation websites and finally decoded your secret alien brain sucking plan ha ha evil alien Im on to you no longer will your mutant q-tip be able to use my own ear wax to suck my brain I will be cramming my ears full of brocoli to prevent exactly this tonight And I finally figured out the cryptic reason why sane men put hamsters in their rear ends --they are anal probe watch dogs and so beleive me henry the hamster will have a new home tonight next dont think plan b will work either to prevent you from using my nose as an alternate method of obtaining my brain I will be filling my nose with toe nail clippings try succking it out now with out getting shredded by them Wisly my wife has told me if I do this I will be sleeping downstairs alone tonight --smart move on her part --this will help keep the family safe Oh wait just got a P.M from her lets see "" Dear husband I have assigned several ""secret agents to protect you tonight"" they bring a special protective white jacket that allows you to hug your self nonstopp --aliens cant stand it when you hug your self.. They also have several needles with drugs that will make you super human to protect you ... You will know them by thier white coats and butterfly nets ""the nets are for any airborne attacks"" look for their secret transport it is cleverly disquised as an ambulance. Me and the children will be prudently hiding in a third world nation and have deliberatly not forwarded the info so you cant spill the beans if they do succsseed in sucking out your brain with love --your wife Great move honey Ive been studying the masters at alien detection at the hospital apparently I should consider shaving my head as well seems to be the right thing to do also Im kind of confused as to why I need to drool alot but I will figure that out to so HA!! You and your alien Ilk shall not have my brain tonight sorry but I have to go those darn spiders are crawling all over me again p.s. next time try engllsh for the mentally challenged like my self lets all whine for a wine port |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 9:31 am | ||||||||||||
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Posted: February 19, 2008 10:23 am | ||||||||||||
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oh dont get upset the secret agents whent ahead and shaved my head and they said the electricity to my head will help protect agains brain scans +++ a big bonus --the drooling will follow shortlye ![]() lets all whine for a wine port |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 10:43 am | ||||||||||||
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someone kindly inform volde's wife that he's off his medication again. thank you
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Craig |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 1:50 pm | ||||||||||||
voldemort |
off my meds they must have hit me with at least 3 different needles ![]() lets all whine for a wine port |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 2:10 pm | ||||||||||||
Kraellin
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![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 19, 2008 3:28 pm | ||||||||||||
Carl
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Thanks Dilla I have done as you suggested and resubmitted, your help has been greatly appreciated ![]() ![]() ![]()
Thankyou, high praise coming from one of the top authors here, and I'm glad your back ![]()
I will have to find this do's and don'ts article - is there a filter that uses the trick you speak of so I can understand as I am not a technical person ![]()
LMAO just a tip but Tin Foil wrapped around the head works for me, and a question do guinea pigs work as well as hamsters ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: February 20, 2008 1:24 am | ||||||||||||
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Been to Thailand for a few weeks - great trip! (I might post a few interesting pics.. ofcourse I couldn't help thinking about how to recreate different textures etc I saw in Thailand in FF ![]()
Mmm.. yeah, but its not really that complicated. When you have a color in FF its composed of RGB and A (alpha), which also can be considered as four grayscale channels. Since the shadows are black only (the deepest grayscale shade), you can assemble up to four grayscale sources using Assemble RGB and Set Alpha - then you run this assembled line into ONE blur, and after the blur you extract the channels again using three extract RGB and one Get Alpha. Voila! You just removed three blur components this way. In other words, simply take three or four of your shadow pipelines and assemble them into a color before running that into a blur. While you may not experience any particular speedup with low resolutions, the filter will be much more memory efficient and have shorter initialization time (the time from when you click a preset to when FF actually starts rendering). Thing is that the channel assembling and extracting also costs something performancewise, so in general the more "parallel" operations you can stuff into an assembled line like described, the more significant the gain will be. |
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Posted: February 20, 2008 1:59 am | ||||||||||||
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Here's my "private" version of your filter - added some depth darkening, a few optimizations, a few new controls and the RGB trick. I also added yet another layer of cut outs - and it still runs faster
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Posted: February 20, 2008 2:12 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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The update displays excellent performance now, but...
![]() ... if you hook the 'shadow perlin noises' into the 'Background' input of the 'image perlin noises', you can even ditch the 5 blend components! Keep boiling it down! ![]() ![]() Also, I'd remap all the shadow noises' 'Roughness' parameters to a maximum of 25 (roughly half the max 'Roughness' of the image noises). Currently the shadows kind of disintegrate for high 'Edge Roughness' values. Furthermore, the 'Variation' control is kind of redundant, don't you think?! ![]() ![]() Only then will the filter be "Certified Genuine Blatantly Crappified"! ![]() ![]() --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 20, 2008 4:52 am | ||||||||||||
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and before i'd certify it, things would have to be displayed better within the editor. ALL filters are linear in progression. they shld show this so that others can follow them easier. this is actually one of the reasons i sometimes mod someone else's filter and they end up with zero credit in the usage stats. so, neatness counts!
![]() Cut Out - Carl - Sphinx - Dilla - rev 1 Craig.ffxml If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: February 20, 2008 7:59 am | ||||||||||||
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Now you're splitting hairs ermmm... connections!
![]() Carl's original layout was very readable! --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 20, 2008 8:13 am | ||||||||||||
Kraellin
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![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 20, 2008 8:44 am | ||||||||||||
Carl
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Sorry for slow reply my internet been down [ you realise how much you come to rely on it
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All excellent suggestion which I will adopt with gratitude , clever getting rid of the 5 blends, and your right the edge roughness went astray ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
I don't know what part of the world you live in but for me coming from an anglo culture, Asia is a fasinating alternative world ![]() ![]() ![]()
Excellent and it is fasinating how 2 clever minds approach something so differently, I thought I could use a different noise with yours and release a second version of Cut It Out!!! [ thankyou for showing that trick and the effort you put in I really don't know how you work these things out so cleverly ], and also directing me to the Do's And Don'ts thread which I was going to go back to now and ask for it to be Stickied for the brain challenged like my self ![]() ![]()
Well I need full certification of course, I do try and keep them neat and play a little game with myself, this one was made to look like a Rocketship [ I know, it's sad behavior ] but I notice when you download it, the spaces close up, some even overlaping slightly ![]()
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Posted: February 21, 2008 12:56 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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Under the 'size, pixels' control we already have a 'variation' control that globally changes noise seeds, hard-wired for each and every filter on the library. Your 'Variation' control does the exact same thing, hence it is redundant. ![]() --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 4:50 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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I guess Craig uses a different thumbnail size (large) for components and mistakes the resulting clutter for carelessness on the author's part. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 5:15 am | ||||||||||||
Carl
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I must admit I thought that gave you further variations, then it is redundant with this filter and I presume that mean you'd only use controled variations if you had a number of variable components that you wanted to independently vary with out a global variance effecting all variance at once [ hope that made sense ]
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So the author choice is not passed on to the downloaders it defaults to the users selection while the Randomizer Settings are also default to the users settings, it would be nice for the author selections to be passed on to the user ![]() |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 8:15 am | ||||||||||||
Carl
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I am using your Depth Darkening control that was a neat idea, I would have tried using the brightness and contrast component, thanks again ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 8:19 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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Exactly! --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 8:46 am | ||||||||||||
Kraellin
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the author settings are passed on. dilla's just making a funny ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 21, 2008 8:58 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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Posted: February 21, 2008 9:18 am | ||||||||||||
Carl
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Well I'm going to resubmit with all the suggestions, you obviously have made this filter work beautifully, I thank you for that
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Posted: February 21, 2008 10:14 pm | ||||||||||||
Carl
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mmmmmmmm a lot of trust was lost here ![]() I managed to get rid of the 5 Contrast & Brightness components by take sphinx clever Depth darkness control one step further...... ![]() NOW DO I GET MY CERTIFICATION ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: February 22, 2008 2:24 am | ||||||||||||
Crapadilla
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Hmmm, let's see... interesting look, renders lighting-fast, easily tweakable, 7+/-2 controls with descriptive labels, the size slider and seamless tiling work correctly. Looks pretty certified to me! ![]() ![]() --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) |
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Posted: February 22, 2008 4:15 am | ||||||||||||
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Posted: February 22, 2008 8:26 am | ||||||||||||
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I know this is a pretty old thread now, but even after all these years, I am still constantly fascinated by the effects of this filter!!! I've even SERIOUSLY considered having some art printed to posters for artwork for my home! I've also considered having a T-Shirt made up with this filter on it. The T-Shirt mockup I did looks so cool it makes me want the shirt for real. Anyway, GREAT WORK - it stands the test of time!
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Posted: April 4, 2013 1:58 pm | ||||||||||||
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OH YES!!!! Although I have never put any comment on this thread, I have to say that this is really one of my greatest favorite filter and one I really love very much, and have to say even more filters like this is what makes really filter forge worthy and the reason to have it as there is no other software that can make such a beautiful, amazing and awesome result as this filter can make.
Love really very much the wonderful cutout effect and is something no0t seen anywhere else.
YES!! It happens to me the same, after all this time I still keep fascinated by the effects of this filter too AND have also had the idea to have it printed as artwork but have not done it, although I think I will do when I can. |
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Posted: April 4, 2013 3:39 pm | ||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Posted: April 5, 2013 11:35 am | ||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Posted: April 5, 2013 11:40 am | ||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Posted: April 5, 2013 11:42 am | ||||||||||||
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Posted: April 6, 2013 1:38 am | ||||||||||||
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Great your finding it useful Eric
![]() Hey SP it's an oldy, because of Dilla & sphinx it interesting how this one works, nice examples ![]() |
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Posted: April 6, 2013 1:55 am | ||||||||||||
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Thanks Carl, and thanks to Dilla and Sphinx for making it better.
ADDED SHADOW CONTROLS AND LAYERS ON/OFF Also I have seen that this filter can be made even better, as I have just modified it to have even better shadow controls (additional ones added) and also have added the feature of individual switching checkboxes for each of the layers, so you can have the mix of layers you may want to have different effects. (if you want, allow it and agree I can send you it by email or upload it here) IDEA FOR MULTIPLE IMAGE LAYERS AND additionally I have just had the idea that as this is an old filter that was released when there was no multiple images, it can now be upgraded to be able to use also multiple images instead of only one as shown here below from quick test I have done, although have not made it fully to use multiple images yet. Although I think that this filter should be kept as it is with a single image source as the presets can work right this way and then have another different filter for multiple images as this is a more different way to do things. ![]() |
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Posted: April 6, 2013 2:05 am | ||||||||||||
Carl
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multiple source images is an interesting idea
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Posted: April 6, 2013 2:33 am | ||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Good that you find it a interesting idea, but I recommend and suggest that if you would make it with multiple source images, from my point of view, it would be much better to make a new separate different version, and release it apart, the same that you have done with the also great Cut It Out 3D.
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Posted: April 6, 2013 6:59 am | ||||||||||||
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I want to say that I still love very much this filter and is really awesome and like very much the cutout in layers that this filter can do in those lovely curved shapes.
I have seen an artist sculpture that was done in this exactly same way, I mean that the artist had laser cut many curvy shapes in steel and then painted them to make a image with different depth. Sorry that I can not show the image here because I do not remember the name of the artist.
I had the idea of multiple source images, and I have tried now it by replacing the input on each of the 5 perlin noise as shown on the screenshot so each of the 5 layers have a different image, although the example is bad because is using the built-in images, it would look better with custom selected images ![]() |
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